Annoying dog owners
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t with the two big Husky dogs yesterday, both off leads yet one of them that ignores your pathetic attempt at calling him back, the issue is your dog not my two.
I'm out with my two at a local dog walking spot, Daisy has a long training lead as she cannot be let off; it gives her a bit of freedom, Barry loves his ball and as long as he has a ball to run after then he is happy.
We are walking at the edge of the field, I can see in the distance this guy and his two dogs, one of which starts approaching, I rapidly pull Daisy in; she hates other dogs and goes for them, at first the owner does nothing and carries on walking with the other dog and his wife; wife then starts to try and call the other dog back, her pathetic attempts are ignored.
Meanwhile the Husky is now hassling Barry and trying to grab his ball, Barry doesn't like this and starts to get a bit cross; think small yappy Terrier, he loves other dogs but woe betide another dog trying to get his ball, Barry is now getting angrier and is going for this dog, in the meantime I am trying to keep Daisy away; which is proving difficult as the Husky is pretty much on top of us; still the owner is not doing a great deal, Daisy makes the odd lunge and connects a few times; as does Barry.
Finally the guy realises that things are getting a bit out of hand; takes the tt a while to realise this, one would have thought that me rapidly reeling in Daisy as his dog approaches us would send out a bit of a clue that his dog approaching us isn't the best thing to be happening.
He grabs his dog, turns to me and says; all aggressive "what's all that about then?"
FFS man do you not have eyes, I was a bit stunned and just blurted out "she is on a lead for a reason" pointing to Daisy, he looks a bit shocked and shuts up, then wanders off
I am sick and tired of other people who a) cannot control their dogs b) can't work out that really a dog off a lead shouldn't really approach another dog that is on a lead, without first checking it is OK to do so c) don't seem to realise that me frantically pulling in my dog when their dog approaches, means my dog isn't great with other dogs and d) your dog approaches mine, I was out of the way minding my own business, so therefore it is your dog that is at fault if things get nasty, not mine.
To give you an idea of the chap he was a bit overweight in that "I'm ard" way, close cropped hair, grey jogging bottoms and matching top, finished off with a body warmer, his wife was overweight and bleach blonde and they drove a Frontera. (See "A bit council thread!!)
The vast majority of dog owners are fine, there are always the odd few though and it drives me nuts.
t with the two big Husky dogs yesterday, both off leads yet one of them that ignores your pathetic attempt at calling him back, the issue is your dog not my two. I'm out with my two at a local dog walking spot, Daisy has a long training lead as she cannot be let off; it gives her a bit of freedom, Barry loves his ball and as long as he has a ball to run after then he is happy.
We are walking at the edge of the field, I can see in the distance this guy and his two dogs, one of which starts approaching, I rapidly pull Daisy in; she hates other dogs and goes for them, at first the owner does nothing and carries on walking with the other dog and his wife; wife then starts to try and call the other dog back, her pathetic attempts are ignored.
Meanwhile the Husky is now hassling Barry and trying to grab his ball, Barry doesn't like this and starts to get a bit cross; think small yappy Terrier, he loves other dogs but woe betide another dog trying to get his ball, Barry is now getting angrier and is going for this dog, in the meantime I am trying to keep Daisy away; which is proving difficult as the Husky is pretty much on top of us; still the owner is not doing a great deal, Daisy makes the odd lunge and connects a few times; as does Barry.
Finally the guy realises that things are getting a bit out of hand; takes the t
t a while to realise this, one would have thought that me rapidly reeling in Daisy as his dog approaches us would send out a bit of a clue that his dog approaching us isn't the best thing to be happening. He grabs his dog, turns to me and says; all aggressive "what's all that about then?"
FFS man do you not have eyes, I was a bit stunned and just blurted out "she is on a lead for a reason" pointing to Daisy, he looks a bit shocked and shuts up, then wanders off
I am sick and tired of other people who a) cannot control their dogs b) can't work out that really a dog off a lead shouldn't really approach another dog that is on a lead, without first checking it is OK to do so c) don't seem to realise that me frantically pulling in my dog when their dog approaches, means my dog isn't great with other dogs and d) your dog approaches mine, I was out of the way minding my own business, so therefore it is your dog that is at fault if things get nasty, not mine.
To give you an idea of the chap he was a bit overweight in that "I'm ard" way, close cropped hair, grey jogging bottoms and matching top, finished off with a body warmer, his wife was overweight and bleach blonde and they drove a Frontera. (See "A bit council thread!!)
The vast majority of dog owners are fine, there are always the odd few though and it drives me nuts.
Edited by HTP99 on Sunday 17th April 11:51
My lad & I were walking our two recently & saw a Malamut type dog with a couple coming our way so we put our Westie on the lead as he can be a bit funny with other dogs.
Their bloody dog wouldn't leave us alone, she was running after it shouting 'away' & wondering why she couldn't catch it!
Like you, I ponted out our Westie was put on the lead for a reason & dared to suggest she should have done the same, you can imagine how well that went down, it was very clearly my fault after all!
God help her OH, bet he really copped it for the rest of the evening!
Their bloody dog wouldn't leave us alone, she was running after it shouting 'away' & wondering why she couldn't catch it!
Like you, I ponted out our Westie was put on the lead for a reason & dared to suggest she should have done the same, you can imagine how well that went down, it was very clearly my fault after all!
God help her OH, bet he really copped it for the rest of the evening!
Yep. Basic manners, if a person has a dog on a lead or puts it on when he sees you coming out yours on the lead.
My dog was injured and needed lead walks for 18 months, ideally not on tarmac because of of the hard surface. So many times another dog would appear and leap around him getting him excited and often aggravating his injury. This was despite me calling that he was injured to the other owner.
My dog was injured and needed lead walks for 18 months, ideally not on tarmac because of of the hard surface. So many times another dog would appear and leap around him getting him excited and often aggravating his injury. This was despite me calling that he was injured to the other owner.
In the past when I've been reeling her in people have said "oh it doesn't matter (insert dogs name here) needs putting in her place every once in a while; err you may not mind my dog attacking your dog but I do!!
I did have one guy; who was training his Spaniel, have a right go at his dog when she ran up to Daisy, with him trying to call her back; Daisy made her yelp and run off, the guy apologised to me and told his dog that it was her fault.
My worry is that both Daisy and Barry are relatively small, this Husky thing was huge, it could easily have taken offence to having both a tiny Terrier with small man syndrome and a mad Frenchie, having a go; causing alot of damage to both of them.
I did have one guy; who was training his Spaniel, have a right go at his dog when she ran up to Daisy, with him trying to call her back; Daisy made her yelp and run off, the guy apologised to me and told his dog that it was her fault.
My worry is that both Daisy and Barry are relatively small, this Husky thing was huge, it could easily have taken offence to having both a tiny Terrier with small man syndrome and a mad Frenchie, having a go; causing alot of damage to both of them.
Edited by HTP99 on Sunday 17th April 18:25
HTP99 said:
You; the tt with the two big Husky dogs yesterday, both off leads yet one of them that ignores your pathetic attempt at calling him back, the issue is your dog not my two.
I'm out with my two at a local dog walking spot, Daisy has a long training lead as she cannot be let off; it gives her a bit of freedom, Barry loves his ball and as long as he has a ball to run after then he is happy.
We are walking at the edge of the field, I can see in the distance this guy and his two dogs, one of which starts approaching, I rapidly pull Daisy in; she hates other dogs and goes for them, at first the owner does nothing and carries on walking with the other dog and his wife; wife then starts to try and call the other dog back, her pathetic attempts are ignored.
Meanwhile the Husky is now hassling Barry and trying to grab his ball, Barry doesn't like this and starts to get a bit cross; think small yappy Terrier, he loves other dogs but woe betide another dog trying to get his ball, Barry is now getting angrier and is going for this dog, in the meantime I am trying to keep Daisy away; which is proving difficult as the Husky is pretty much on top of us; still the owner is not doing a great deal, Daisy makes the odd lunge and connects a few times; as does Barry.
Finally the guy realises that things are getting a bit out of hand; takes the tt a while to realise this, one would have thought that me rapidly reeling in Daisy as his dog approaches us would send out a bit of a clue that his dog approaching us isn't the best thing to be happening.
He grabs his dog, turns to me and says; all aggressive "what's all that about then?"
FFS man do you not have eyes, I was a bit stunned and just blurted out "she is on a lead for a reason" pointing to Daisy, he looks a bit shocked and shuts up, then wanders off
I am sick and tired of other people who a) cannot control their dogs b) can't work out that really a dog off a lead shouldn't really approach another dog that is on a lead, without first checking it is OK to do so c) don't seem to realise that me frantically pulling in my dog when their dog approaches, means my dog isn't great with other dogs and d) your dog approaches mine, I was out of the way minding my own business, so therefore it is your dog that is at fault if things get nasty, not mine.
To give you an idea of the chap he was a bit overweight in that "I'm ard" way, close cropped hair, grey jogging bottoms and matching top, finished off with a body warmer, his wife was overweight and bleach blonde and they drove a Frontera. (See "A bit council thread!!)
The vast majority of dog owners are fine, there are always the odd few though and it drives me nuts.
So your dogs are anti-social, his aren't, and he's somehow the problem? If your dogs were properly socialised then none of this would have happened. t with the two big Husky dogs yesterday, both off leads yet one of them that ignores your pathetic attempt at calling him back, the issue is your dog not my two. I'm out with my two at a local dog walking spot, Daisy has a long training lead as she cannot be let off; it gives her a bit of freedom, Barry loves his ball and as long as he has a ball to run after then he is happy.
We are walking at the edge of the field, I can see in the distance this guy and his two dogs, one of which starts approaching, I rapidly pull Daisy in; she hates other dogs and goes for them, at first the owner does nothing and carries on walking with the other dog and his wife; wife then starts to try and call the other dog back, her pathetic attempts are ignored.
Meanwhile the Husky is now hassling Barry and trying to grab his ball, Barry doesn't like this and starts to get a bit cross; think small yappy Terrier, he loves other dogs but woe betide another dog trying to get his ball, Barry is now getting angrier and is going for this dog, in the meantime I am trying to keep Daisy away; which is proving difficult as the Husky is pretty much on top of us; still the owner is not doing a great deal, Daisy makes the odd lunge and connects a few times; as does Barry.
Finally the guy realises that things are getting a bit out of hand; takes the t
t a while to realise this, one would have thought that me rapidly reeling in Daisy as his dog approaches us would send out a bit of a clue that his dog approaching us isn't the best thing to be happening. He grabs his dog, turns to me and says; all aggressive "what's all that about then?"
FFS man do you not have eyes, I was a bit stunned and just blurted out "she is on a lead for a reason" pointing to Daisy, he looks a bit shocked and shuts up, then wanders off
I am sick and tired of other people who a) cannot control their dogs b) can't work out that really a dog off a lead shouldn't really approach another dog that is on a lead, without first checking it is OK to do so c) don't seem to realise that me frantically pulling in my dog when their dog approaches, means my dog isn't great with other dogs and d) your dog approaches mine, I was out of the way minding my own business, so therefore it is your dog that is at fault if things get nasty, not mine.
To give you an idea of the chap he was a bit overweight in that "I'm ard" way, close cropped hair, grey jogging bottoms and matching top, finished off with a body warmer, his wife was overweight and bleach blonde and they drove a Frontera. (See "A bit council thread!!)
The vast majority of dog owners are fine, there are always the odd few though and it drives me nuts.
Edited by HTP99 on Sunday 17th April 11:51
I love how you describe their clothing. What were you wearing and what's your bmi?
bayleaf said:
HTP99 said:
You; the tt with the two big Husky dogs yesterday, both off leads yet one of them that ignores your pathetic attempt at calling him back, the issue is your dog not my two.
I'm out with my two at a local dog walking spot, Daisy has a long training lead as she cannot be let off; it gives her a bit of freedom, Barry loves his ball and as long as he has a ball to run after then he is happy.
We are walking at the edge of the field, I can see in the distance this guy and his two dogs, one of which starts approaching, I rapidly pull Daisy in; she hates other dogs and goes for them, at first the owner does nothing and carries on walking with the other dog and his wife; wife then starts to try and call the other dog back, her pathetic attempts are ignored.
Meanwhile the Husky is now hassling Barry and trying to grab his ball, Barry doesn't like this and starts to get a bit cross; think small yappy Terrier, he loves other dogs but woe betide another dog trying to get his ball, Barry is now getting angrier and is going for this dog, in the meantime I am trying to keep Daisy away; which is proving difficult as the Husky is pretty much on top of us; still the owner is not doing a great deal, Daisy makes the odd lunge and connects a few times; as does Barry.
Finally the guy realises that things are getting a bit out of hand; takes the tt a while to realise this, one would have thought that me rapidly reeling in Daisy as his dog approaches us would send out a bit of a clue that his dog approaching us isn't the best thing to be happening.
He grabs his dog, turns to me and says; all aggressive "what's all that about then?"
FFS man do you not have eyes, I was a bit stunned and just blurted out "she is on a lead for a reason" pointing to Daisy, he looks a bit shocked and shuts up, then wanders off
I am sick and tired of other people who a) cannot control their dogs b) can't work out that really a dog off a lead shouldn't really approach another dog that is on a lead, without first checking it is OK to do so c) don't seem to realise that me frantically pulling in my dog when their dog approaches, means my dog isn't great with other dogs and d) your dog approaches mine, I was out of the way minding my own business, so therefore it is your dog that is at fault if things get nasty, not mine.
To give you an idea of the chap he was a bit overweight in that "I'm ard" way, close cropped hair, grey jogging bottoms and matching top, finished off with a body warmer, his wife was overweight and bleach blonde and they drove a Frontera. (See "A bit council thread!!)
The vast majority of dog owners are fine, there are always the odd few though and it drives me nuts.
So your dogs are anti-social, his aren't, and he's somehow the problem? If your dogs were properly socialised then none of this would have happened. t with the two big Husky dogs yesterday, both off leads yet one of them that ignores your pathetic attempt at calling him back, the issue is your dog not my two. I'm out with my two at a local dog walking spot, Daisy has a long training lead as she cannot be let off; it gives her a bit of freedom, Barry loves his ball and as long as he has a ball to run after then he is happy.
We are walking at the edge of the field, I can see in the distance this guy and his two dogs, one of which starts approaching, I rapidly pull Daisy in; she hates other dogs and goes for them, at first the owner does nothing and carries on walking with the other dog and his wife; wife then starts to try and call the other dog back, her pathetic attempts are ignored.
Meanwhile the Husky is now hassling Barry and trying to grab his ball, Barry doesn't like this and starts to get a bit cross; think small yappy Terrier, he loves other dogs but woe betide another dog trying to get his ball, Barry is now getting angrier and is going for this dog, in the meantime I am trying to keep Daisy away; which is proving difficult as the Husky is pretty much on top of us; still the owner is not doing a great deal, Daisy makes the odd lunge and connects a few times; as does Barry.
Finally the guy realises that things are getting a bit out of hand; takes the t
t a while to realise this, one would have thought that me rapidly reeling in Daisy as his dog approaches us would send out a bit of a clue that his dog approaching us isn't the best thing to be happening. He grabs his dog, turns to me and says; all aggressive "what's all that about then?"
FFS man do you not have eyes, I was a bit stunned and just blurted out "she is on a lead for a reason" pointing to Daisy, he looks a bit shocked and shuts up, then wanders off
I am sick and tired of other people who a) cannot control their dogs b) can't work out that really a dog off a lead shouldn't really approach another dog that is on a lead, without first checking it is OK to do so c) don't seem to realise that me frantically pulling in my dog when their dog approaches, means my dog isn't great with other dogs and d) your dog approaches mine, I was out of the way minding my own business, so therefore it is your dog that is at fault if things get nasty, not mine.
To give you an idea of the chap he was a bit overweight in that "I'm ard" way, close cropped hair, grey jogging bottoms and matching top, finished off with a body warmer, his wife was overweight and bleach blonde and they drove a Frontera. (See "A bit council thread!!)
The vast majority of dog owners are fine, there are always the odd few though and it drives me nuts.
Edited by HTP99 on Sunday 17th April 11:51
I love how you describe their clothing. What were you wearing and what's your bmi?
One dog doesn't like others and is always on a lead, she is also deaf so she can be defensive and the fact that I was reeling her in should make that pretty obvious to the owner of the other dog, my other dog is fine with other dogs but if they start to a) go for his ball or b) are overly boisterous towards him and hassling him then he gets cross.
The fact of of the matter is, the Husky was off a lead, it was hassling my dogs, its re-call was non existent and the owner couldn't see an issue so yes the problem wasn't my dogs.
If Barry goes off to see another dog/person/bush/whatever and I call him back, he will always come back to me.
You clearly have no idea.
Edited by HTP99 on Sunday 17th April 19:26
To the OP - I read your post and went away for a bit as I didnt want to respond at the time. I think that you need to be aware that the issue here was your dog. Im sure that putting the dog on a lead makes you feel that you are taking reasonable duty and care to protect others. Please Please Please reconsider putting the dog on the lead doesnt absolve you. Have you muzzled the dog ? If not then I think that you should consider one. Thats the only way to be sure and to be safe - yes it means that your dog wont be able to defend itself but it also means that your dog wont be able to bite. And thats the important thing here.
I would also look at enrolling on dog training and see about getting those anger issues resolved. A husky is a pretty big dog and it can and will do a fair bit of damage. Its never the dogs fault but the situation that the dog is allowed to get itself into. Manage those situations and you reduce the risk. As for other dogs and other people, you cant control them. Thats part of life. People do unexpected things. What would happen if a kid poked the dog in the eye ? or picked up the dogs stick or ball, These things are plausable and they do happen. What if the person doesnt speak english and you try to warn them away ?
I would also look at enrolling on dog training and see about getting those anger issues resolved. A husky is a pretty big dog and it can and will do a fair bit of damage. Its never the dogs fault but the situation that the dog is allowed to get itself into. Manage those situations and you reduce the risk. As for other dogs and other people, you cant control them. Thats part of life. People do unexpected things. What would happen if a kid poked the dog in the eye ? or picked up the dogs stick or ball, These things are plausable and they do happen. What if the person doesnt speak english and you try to warn them away ?
kowalski655 said:
Huskies & Malamuts seem to be replacing Staffies as dogs for the terminally ignorant!
Only those that don't understand the breed(s)Neither should be allowed off lead, unless in an enclosed space, high prey drive coupled with little or no recall; no doubt someone will pipe up and say theirs always comes back - I personally wouldn't ever take the risk, I love my dog too much to risk him chasing something across a road etc.
I've had a Husky, Samoyed and currently have a Malamute and have never had any problems with them, well apart from everyone thinking the mal is a husky despite being twice the size... They are actually very sociable with other dogs, if a little boisterous.
P.S Malamute has an E on the end
Edited by Pickled on Sunday 17th April 19:42
bayleaf said:
Your dogs are poorly socialised, it's very easy to understand.
I hate coming across poorly socialised dogs, doesn't reflect well.
Some people don't like other people, some dogs don't like other dogs. Don't be a dick.I hate coming across poorly socialised dogs, doesn't reflect well.
I keep my boy on a lead because he gets very defensive and when he does he completely ignores any attempt to recall him, I wouldn't dream of letting him off the lead because if he went for another dog it would be my fault. If your dog does not instantly come back when you call it DON'T let it off a lead, pretty f
king simple really.Butter Face said:
bayleaf said:
Your dogs are poorly socialised, it's very easy to understand.
I hate coming across poorly socialised dogs, doesn't reflect well.
Some people don't like other people, some dogs don't like other dogs. Don't be a dick.I hate coming across poorly socialised dogs, doesn't reflect well.
I keep my boy on a lead because he gets very defensive and when he does he completely ignores any attempt to recall him, I wouldn't dream of letting him off the lead because if he went for another dog it would be my fault. If your dog does not instantly come back when you call it DON'T let it off a lead, pretty f
king simple really.bayleaf said:
Butter Face said:
bayleaf said:
Your dogs are poorly socialised, it's very easy to understand.
I hate coming across poorly socialised dogs, doesn't reflect well.
Some people don't like other people, some dogs don't like other dogs. Don't be a dick.I hate coming across poorly socialised dogs, doesn't reflect well.
I keep my boy on a lead because he gets very defensive and when he does he completely ignores any attempt to recall him, I wouldn't dream of letting him off the lead because if he went for another dog it would be my fault. If your dog does not instantly come back when you call it DON'T let it off a lead, pretty f
king simple really.I also know that if I see a dog on a lead then the likelyhood is that it's on the lead for a reason.
With HTP99 on this one, our dog Holly used to be quite happy with other dogs until an out of control rottweiler cross attacked her while she was on a lead. She now no longer trusts pretty much any other dog so she has to be kept on a lead for the majority of our walks. Most other dog owners are OK with this and will control their dogs, but there are still the occasional few that think it is OK to let their dogs wander over and harass (in her mind anyway) Holly.
The annoying thing is that she was properly socialised as a puppy and used to love playing with other dogs, but her ability to trust them and our ability to trust her possible reaction has been completely lost.
The annoying thing is that she was properly socialised as a puppy and used to love playing with other dogs, but her ability to trust them and our ability to trust her possible reaction has been completely lost.
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