Dog had a fit last night.

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shambolic

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173 months

Saturday 9th April 2016
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Only his second one in 2 years. He was fine 10 minutes after. Was wondering if there is any cause for this or just one of those things.
It was a full on fitting, bowel emptying, shaking trembling, falling over for a couple of minutes.
I just turned off the lights and tv and sat with him till he stopped. Other dog panicked and ran into another room.
He's absolutely fine today.
Vet said after first one not to worry unless they get frequent. So I suppose there's not much I can do.
Bloody scary at the time though.

bexVN

14,682 posts

217 months

Saturday 9th April 2016
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You did absolutely everything right. Make a note of it and how long it lasted in case it happens again in near future.

As long as he starts coming out of his fit after a couple of minutes. If it is going on for longer than 3-5 mins you will need to phone the Vet straight away.

Sometimes vets px Diazepam rectubes to use during or just post a seizure to help recovery, reduce length of episode but you would need to discuss options with your vet to see if something like that was appropriate in his case or not.

shambolic

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Saturday 9th April 2016
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I had a tube of rectal morphine 10mg from last one but it was out of date. He seemed to calm quite quick after was thirsty then just lay down and was quite clingy when I moved he came with me touching my leg as I walked. ( unusual for him but I take it he just wanted reassurance that he was fine).
Thanks for putting my mind at rest. I don't think it was any more than 3/4 minutes but it just seems longer at the time.

Smiler.

11,752 posts

236 months

Saturday 9th April 2016
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They do seem to go on forever & are always unpleasant. He didn't cluster fit which is extremely good.

A vet might want to check him over to ensure there is nothing else untoward going on.

One of ours staring fitting 4 weeks after we got him & it's been pretty much downhill since then in terms of fits (just shy of 2 years ago).

Hopefully proves to be a quirk in your chap.

smashie

685 posts

157 months

Saturday 9th April 2016
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Seeing your dog fit is not a nice thing.
Ours has had epilepsy now for 4 years (costing me a fortune) and we honestly thought last weekend we were going to lose him. He had a cluster of 3 fits last Friday night and then a cluster of 6 on Saturday evening (just as we got our Indian takeaway). Unfortunately he could not get up after his fits on the Saturday so had to carry him out to the car and into the emergency vets. He didn't get up for over 2 hours. He is still tired but he is getting back to normal. We could see ours desperately trying to fight the fits.
He usually has a fit once every 2 weeks or so.

If it does start getting regular/worse, then that is far from the end of it. There are quite a lot of options for treatment. We have unfortunately exhausted it all and we have also been told that collies are the most difficult to treat.

shambolic

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Saturday 9th April 2016
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He has been fine today. Good long walk and ate his dinner. Now having a nap.

Mr Tom

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147 months

Saturday 9th April 2016
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How old is he/she and what breed?

shambolic

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Sunday 10th April 2016
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He is 6 and a German short haired pointer/Labrador cross gun dog.

shambolic

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Monday 9th May 2016
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Just had another one this afternoon but longer and a bit more violent. I took him to the vets but he had stopped fitting and was just lethargic by the time I got there.
They are keeping him in for a few hours for further tests and his phosphorus levels are a bit low?
Will hopefully find out more later.

bexVN

14,682 posts

217 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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shambolic said:
Just had another one this afternoon but longer and a bit more violent. I took him to the vets but he had stopped fitting and was just lethargic by the time I got there.
They are keeping him in for a few hours for further tests and his phosphorus levels are a bit low?
Will hopefully find out more later.
Phosphorous or Potassium?

Hope he is back home and settled soon, never nice watching them seizure even when you're used to it.

smashie

685 posts

157 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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bexVN said:
never nice watching them seizure even when you're used to it.
Totally agree. Ours has had fits for 4 years and he recently had 3 severe ones last week. Even after having seen him have probably getting on for 100 fits over the last 4 years, it does not get easier.

shambolic

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173 months

Wednesday 11th May 2016
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Phosphorus but they have said it is ok.
Have given us more morphine to calm if he has another and epilepsy tablets to start him on.
Discussed not giving him them unless fits get more frequent due to the liver problems with the medication.
Also didn't know that the drug delays fits but then you might get 3/4 in a short space of time before another long spell fit free.
So we aren't giving meds until we see if he has another one quite soon.
Bit of a hard thing to monitor as our dogs are working dogs and are housed in kennels.

smashie

685 posts

157 months

Wednesday 11th May 2016
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If your dog is not a greedy dog and he is super hungry the next day, then he has more than likely had a fit. I am not sure of this is the case for all dogs, however when ours has a fit his hunger levels go through the roof for the next 8-12 hours.

bexVN

14,682 posts

217 months

Wednesday 11th May 2016
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shambolic said:
Phosphorus but they have said it is ok.
Have given us more morphine to calm if he has another and epilepsy tablets to start him on.
Discussed not giving him them unless fits get more frequent due to the liver problems with the medication.
Also didn't know that the drug delays fits but then you might get 3/4 in a short space of time before another long spell fit free.
So we aren't giving meds until we see if he has another one quite soon.
Bit of a hard thing to monitor as our dogs are working dogs and are housed in kennels.
As long as dose is monitored and started off at low end dose and regularly blood tested for (Inc liver parameters) they cope well with the medication but it should be checked regularly so if does affect liver it can be acted upon quickly.

shambolic

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Thursday 12th May 2016
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Thanks. But is it worth the (low) risk for only an occasional seizure every few months if the fit isn't causing any damage as such?

bexVN

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217 months

Thursday 12th May 2016
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shambolic said:
Thanks. But is it worth the (low) risk for only an occasional seizure every few months if the fit isn't causing any damage as such?
Not if every few months, if becomes eg couple times a month I would consider it.
And as long as the seizures themselves are short (ie 2-3 mins max)but obviously be guided by your vet.

shambolic

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Thursday 12th May 2016
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Thanks. But is it worth the (low) risk for only an occasional seizure every few months if the fit isn't causing any damage as such?