Puppy Training, how to do it in the most effective way?

Puppy Training, how to do it in the most effective way?

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Haighermeister

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31,688 posts

167 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2011
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Dog crap is horrible. Lol.

We've bought puppy training pads which are placed all over the house, and supposedly attract the dog.

Doesn't seem to be working though, the dog pees everywhere and likes to poo behind the sofa, under the table, under the bed etc

Now, when I were a lad, we had 2 dogs, and I remember that when they were being trained, my parents tapped them on the nose, shouted at them and they soon learnt. But according to online guides and books I've read you shouldn't shout at dogs or hit them nowadays?

Any help appreciated. Is it just a matter of patience?

GeraldSmith

6,887 posts

224 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2011
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It's mainly about encouragement not punishment. You need to take them outside a lot and make a fuss of them when they do it where you want them to. When we have a puppy it goes out at least once an hour and with our last one it only ever did anything inside two or three times.

Jasandjules

70,510 posts

236 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2011
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Are you taking him out to go loo after every meal and every time he drinks?

When he does go toilet, praise him (we used the command "be clean"). Then bring him back in.

Also, everytime you see him sniffing around looking for a spot to go - take him outside, wait for the toilet - praise and bring back in..

Mubby

1,237 posts

189 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2011
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a box of treats (doggie biscuits or some training titbits) near the door and every time he goes outside lots of paise and fuss as said above and a treat straight way so he knows what its for, you have to be consistant and he will look for the treat!

with the guide dogs we always use treats to train them as food is definately effective!

I would also only have one puppy pad down, next to the door that is used to let him out, again is he uses the pad lots of praise, as at least he is going in the right direction (towards the door!) if he does mess anywhere else dont say a word and just clean it up, any kind of words even if peeved off is still attention to the dog.

should be fully trained in no time, usually we house train within 3 weeks, its constant letting out and hard work but pays off, and the dog will then go to the door and you need to notice and let him out when he does!

good luck!!

Toyowner

24,165 posts

228 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2011
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Watch him, you will learn the signs. As soon as he starts circling or even looking like he going to toilet, then outside straight away.

Then praise.

And as others have said, if you must use pads, then only one, and that by the back door.

Karyn

6,053 posts

175 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2011
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Echoing others - time, patience, hard work, and lots and lots and lots of praise.

Take him out about 20 minutes after every meal, and about every hour on top of that.

When in the house, watch him - if he starts to sniff the floor in corners, circle, or hunker his back-quarters down, it's toilet time! Outside with him, and, as soon as he starts to perform, give him his "toilet" command*, and then lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots of praise, for being such a clever, good boy!

Never shout at him for toileting in the house - just pick him up (he will stop weeing when you do!), and outside with him... when he performs outside, same again - toilet command and then lots of praise.


For the toilet-training time, it's 24/7 puppy watch, unfortunately. The little blighter will piss as soon as you take your eye off him wink

We've never bothered with puppy pads - they'd get shredded, and they turn a one-step process into a two-step process, IMO.


To answer your thread title - praise and treats. Far more effective than shouting. wink


*Hind-sight tells me that "be clean", or "go toilet", or "toilet", or "get busy"... or, ...anything, really, is better than the "WEEWEE!" I've inadvertently trained into ours! hehe

Mubby

1,237 posts

189 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2011
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Karyn said:
*Hind-sight tells me that "be clean", or "go toilet", or "toilet", or "get busy"... or, ...anything, really, is better than the "WEEWEE!" I've inadvertently trained into ours! hehe
laugh "busy busy" for the Guide dogs! lol

riosyd

614 posts

208 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2011
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Mubby said:
Karyn said:
*Hind-sight tells me that "be clean", or "go toilet", or "toilet", or "get busy"... or, ...anything, really, is better than the "WEEWEE!" I've inadvertently trained into ours! hehe
laugh "busy busy" for the Guide dogs! lol
I used "hurry up" which seemed appropriate during winter!

Karyn

6,053 posts

175 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2011
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Any future puppies we get will have a different command, that's for sure!

I feel a plantpot standing on the back door step;

"WEEWEE, WEEWEE!"

Stevenj214

4,941 posts

235 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2011
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Haighermeister said:
Any help appreciated. Is it just a matter of patience?
It's patience, but you also have to actually train them. You can't just put a puppy pad down and magically expect the dog to know how to use it (despite the claims on the pack).

Take him outside every hour and after every meal. Praise him to high heavens for going in the correct place.

If you see him about to toilet inside, take him out and praise him to high heavens for going in the correct place.

If you see him actually toileting inside, give a short sharp "no" to interrupt the process, take him out to finish and praise him to high heavens for going in the correct place.

If you discover an accident, just clean it up, it's not the puppy's fault.

As others have said, train in a toilet command too. I use "toilet".

Mrs Grumpy

863 posts

196 months

Thursday 4th August 2011
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Echo pretty much what others have said smile

Outside when waking and after meals, plus about once an hour. I always go outside with mine so I can praise and treat instantly. If you just wait by the back door or whatever then they may make the link between coming back indoors, rather than actually toileting.

I never use puppy pads nor newspaper as I want them to learn to go outside, not indoors!

Another thing worth mentioning - have you been leaving the doors open? If so, dogs often have a problem in the early stages of differentiating between inside and outside.

I never tell a dog off - in whatever form it make take - for going indoors. Dogs don't understand they are being told off or toileting indoors just that they have been told off for toileting. It's a pretty sure sign that this has happened if the dog takes itself off somewhere out of sight to toilet.

Mubby

1,237 posts

189 months

Thursday 4th August 2011
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Mrs Grumpy said:
I never tell a dog off - Dogs don't understand they are being told off or toileting indoors just that they have been told off for toileting. It's a pretty sure sign that this has happened if the dog takes itself off somewhere out of sight to toilet.
ABSOLUTELY!

Karyn

6,053 posts

175 months

Thursday 4th August 2011
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Aye - I'll agree with that!

We perhaps started leaving ours on her own slightly too soon, as she thinks it's "OK" to toilet (so dignified!) in the room she's in during the day... if she's caught short of an evening, she's been known to disappear off to the room and lay a little cable...

It's not happened for a while now, thankfully, so we've just assumed that, now she's more adept at holding it for longer, she can make it outside in time.



...and there was that phase where she'd wee on the sofa in full view of everyone...

rolleyes

Sadly, there's no particularly quick or easy way of getting this done. Hard work and patience, with treats and praise in the right places, are the only way of making it any "quicker" and more effective.