Monster tadpole in my pond!

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Vron

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2,538 posts

216 months

Saturday 9th July 2011
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Spotted this today about grape sized - its body is about 2.5cm long x 1.5 and the tail is about 3cm long. No signs of legs or arms forming! Is it a freak - all the others are normal sized? Or is it a Toadpole?

Apologies for crap pics but its not an underwater camera!




davepoth

29,395 posts

206 months

Saturday 9th July 2011
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It could be a newt?

Vron

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216 months

Saturday 9th July 2011
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Turnips said:
This.
YES ! That's made my evening I want some newts in the pond biggrin

Edit: Shouldn't newt tadpoles have feathery gills? This one doesn't?

Edited by Vron on Saturday 9th July 20:19

Mubby

1,237 posts

189 months

Sunday 10th July 2011
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pond-ness monster biggrin

JFReturns

3,720 posts

178 months

Sunday 10th July 2011
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Normal size for a toad tadpole!

GTDNB

755 posts

177 months

Sunday 10th July 2011
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more likely to be a bullfrog than a newt imo. I've got a pond full of newts but have never seen a tadpole that size.

SmokinV8

786 posts

218 months

Sunday 10th July 2011
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defo not a newt, we have 100`s of baby newts in our pond and baby newts have feathery gills

otolith

59,157 posts

211 months

Sunday 10th July 2011
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I suspect it is simply a common frog tadpole expressing the cannibalistic phenotype. Under certain circumstances, tadpoles will change their shape and behaviour and devour their peers, growing and developing much more rapidly as a result.

Sam_68

9,939 posts

252 months

Monday 11th July 2011
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otolith said:
I suspect it is simply a common frog tadpole expressing the cannibalistic phenotype. Under certain circumstances, tadpoles will change their shape and behaviour and devour their peers, growing and developing much more rapidly as a result.
^^^ This.

You also sometimes get tadpoles that 'overwinter' and only develop into frogs in their second season, which obviously have a head start in terms of size (and are often cannibalistic to boot).

As SmokinV8 says, its definitely not a newt tadpole - they look quite different... they are long and slender (lacking the 'teardrop' head/body of frog and toad tadpoles), with feathery gills.

Very unlikely to be a different species (like a bullfrog), 'cos you'd have dozens of them... a sole survivor from a batch of spawn would be most unusual!


Edited by Sam_68 on Monday 11th July 09:01

Brabus Jord

1,589 posts

214 months

Monday 11th July 2011
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This is a bull frog Tadpole smile