Spotted a Pine Martin in London the other day

Spotted a Pine Martin in London the other day

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ZR1cliff

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Sunday 29th May 2011
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Thought they were meant to be rare?

ellroy

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Sunday 29th May 2011
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Picture or I call ferret.

ZR1cliff

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No picture and it was much bigger than a ferret. Was delivering to a warehouse in North London and standing by a metal boundary fence. On the other side of the fence was a large expanse of waste ground thick with trees and bushes. I could hear some movement in the trees and for a few seconds saw something the size of cat with a bushey tail and a small head jump high up from one branch to another. Then it disappeared. Just looked on the net and the only mammal that comes near is a Pine Martin?

It wasn't a cat either as this mammal looked very comfortable in it's movements so high up.

Jasandjules

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236 months

Sunday 29th May 2011
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Good news if you did see one. See a few out here in the sticks (nearly run over one and her babies a few months ago when she decided to cross the road)..

blueg33

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Sunday 29th May 2011
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Acrobatic Stoat IMO maybe even a large squirrel Pine Marten live much further north as a rule.

Edited by blueg33 on Sunday 29th May 15:12

ZR1cliff

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Jasandjules said:
Good news if you did see one. See a few out here in the sticks (nearly run over one and her babies a few months ago when she decided to cross the road)..
That's what I thought and the reason why I won't post the exact whereabouts. Just looked on the map and seen a lot of water and other waste green land nearby so it's possible the area can sustain such animals without them drawing too much attention.

ZR1cliff

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blueg33 said:
Stoat IMO. Pine Marten live much further north.
No way a stoat, much bigger and around the size of a cat.

whirligig

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Sunday 29th May 2011
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Seen them regularly in the West Highlands and they are very distinctive, with their cream coloured throat/front and big bushy tail.

Still pretty rare to see one - wonder if they are becoming like urban foxes?

ZR1cliff

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Sunday 29th May 2011
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Just googled it and am sure this is what I saw. Still find it hard to believe I saw this in London of all places, even though it was in dense woodland.


ZR1cliff

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Sunday 29th May 2011
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Just seen this one on youtube and it's exactly like the one I saw.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RI9sFSyCcA&fea...

soad

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Sunday 29th May 2011
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One of these then?
Looks cute enough!

PoleDriver

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otolith

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Sunday 29th May 2011
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My money is on a mink - they're very common, and likely to be found in the kind of area you described.


ZR1cliff

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Sunday 29th May 2011
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Still confident it's a Pine Marten after reading a few facts on them. The one I saw was right near the top of the trees.

"They favour well wooded areas where they can nest in hollow trees and old animal homes. Pine martens eat small mammals and seasonally available produce such as autumn fruits and berries. They are also treetop hunters that can race skillfully along branches, leaping from tree to tree in pursuit of squirrels."

5paul5

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Sunday 29th May 2011
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Yes most probably a mink, no pine martins in London !

BlackVanDyke

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Sunday 29th May 2011
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Cool!

I do kinda doubt it though, they generally need the same kind of habitat as red squirrels and are similarly restricted geographically to mainly the peak district, Northumberland, Scotland etc.

Other things worth considering:

Stoat
Polecat - probably the best 'stunt double' for a pine marten I can think of http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/life/European_Polecat
Mink
Domestic moggy with a funny haircut smile
Fox (can be dark brown, incredibly agile and cubs look remarkably non-canine sometimes)

Edited by BlackVanDyke on Sunday 29th May 16:47

Boshly

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Sunday 29th May 2011
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5paul5 said:
Yes most probably a mink, no pine martins in London !
Thats a pretty strong statement as you're effectively calling 'bks' so can you back it up?

I'm curious either way.

BlackVanDyke

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Sunday 29th May 2011
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Boshly said:
5paul5 said:
Yes most probably a mink, no pine martins in London !
Thats a pretty strong statement as you're effectively calling 'bks' so can you back it up?

I'm curious either way.
The Mammal Society reckon so, and I think they're probably a reliable source.

http://www.pinemarten.info/images/larger/ecologyma...

http://www.mammal.org.uk/index.php?option=com_cont...

PoleDriver

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Sunday 29th May 2011
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Any maps proving that there are definitely no wallabies living wild in the UK?
It is possible that the Pine Marten has escaped from somewhere, as so many other animals have!

BlackVanDyke

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Sunday 29th May 2011
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PoleDriver said:
Any maps proving that there are definitely no wallabies living wild in the UK?
It is possible that the Pine Marten has escaped from somewhere, as so many other animals have!
hehe

I've just had a rootle about in The Mammal Society's site and they do actually have wallabies listed as a resident British mammal so I'm not quite sure what your point is there...