Cross breeding dogs - Grrrrrrr
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Not a great fan of cross breeding, Ladradoodle as example,
was browsing a website someone had commented on (Epups),
will be looking for pup border terrier soon as we laid one to rest last year,
most pups advertised were pure borders, then came the cross border and
patterdale or lakeland or jack russell, these i find acceptable as all are
terriers and have been cross bred for years, then a cross border and
labrador - never heard of this before,
then shock horror a cross border terrier with a chihuahua - not right at all.
A friend has told me that his neighbour has a cross jack russell and
chihuahua, they are calling it a Jackahuahua (Jackawahwah)- ridiculous .
Are there any other as bad or worse than this ??
was browsing a website someone had commented on (Epups),
will be looking for pup border terrier soon as we laid one to rest last year,
most pups advertised were pure borders, then came the cross border and
patterdale or lakeland or jack russell, these i find acceptable as all are
terriers and have been cross bred for years, then a cross border and
labrador - never heard of this before,
then shock horror a cross border terrier with a chihuahua - not right at all.
A friend has told me that his neighbour has a cross jack russell and
chihuahua, they are calling it a Jackahuahua (Jackawahwah)- ridiculous .
Are there any other as bad or worse than this ??
Cockerpoo is one of the latest ones! Clearly a Cocker and Poodle, although all these new crosses don't sound or seem right it is far healthier than the continual inbreeding of pedigree dogs.
My sister in law works as a Veterinary Nurse speacialising in oncology, she says pedigree dogs having cancer is now such a problem.
Working dogs strains such as terriers and spaniels tend not to be so bad as they are bred for their health as opposed to looks or blood lines.
J
My sister in law works as a Veterinary Nurse speacialising in oncology, she says pedigree dogs having cancer is now such a problem.
Working dogs strains such as terriers and spaniels tend not to be so bad as they are bred for their health as opposed to looks or blood lines.
J
tpoos as one would prefer..........bexVN said:
I don't have a problem with crossbreeding generallyy as long as breeds are equalish size mixes and not two breeds with the same hereditary illnesses but I do find it amazing how much people are willing to pay for what is essentially a mix breed.
I would be more than happy to pay more for a good quality cross than a inbred pedigree!MonkeyMatt said:
bexVN said:
I don't have a problem with crossbreeding generallyy as long as breeds are equalish size mixes and not two breeds with the same hereditary illnesses but I do find it amazing how much people are willing to pay for what is essentially a mix breed.
I would be more than happy to pay more for a good quality cross than a inbred pedigree!MonkeyMatt said:
I would be more than happy to pay more for a good quality cross than a inbred pedigree!
Proper breeding should seek to eliminate defects and keep to the breed standards. I've spent a long time looking into a suitable mate for one of my mutts for those reasons, and rejected a few offers as well to be on the safe side.Though I do accept that there are those who don't take the appropriate time nor consider such things when breeding.
your second dog (the brown one) is the absolute image of ours,
you didnt get him from doncaster did you?
i would have a mongrel any day of the week, over a pure pedigree,
look up hybrid vigour.
myself and my daughter drove past a pure pedigree, i dont know what it was it looked like a mish mash of parts, it looked liike a bulldog, but very short, and its hind legs were alot bigger so it was constantly sloped down.
i think read somewhere that 1/3 of all king charles spaniels have a skull thas too smal for its brain, and they are bread this way ?
you didnt get him from doncaster did you?
i would have a mongrel any day of the week, over a pure pedigree,
look up hybrid vigour.
myself and my daughter drove past a pure pedigree, i dont know what it was it looked like a mish mash of parts, it looked liike a bulldog, but very short, and its hind legs were alot bigger so it was constantly sloped down.
i think read somewhere that 1/3 of all king charles spaniels have a skull thas too smal for its brain, and they are bread this way ?
What amazes me is how much people will pay for a mongrel.
My springer is from a good working strain, and cost me £325. I fail to see why anyone would pay anything like that for a 'Cockerpoo' - you mean a mistake between a Poodle and a Cocker Spaniel then?
Those two dogs up there ^^^^ are probably lovely, but they're still mongrels.
My springer is from a good working strain, and cost me £325. I fail to see why anyone would pay anything like that for a 'Cockerpoo' - you mean a mistake between a Poodle and a Cocker Spaniel then?
Those two dogs up there ^^^^ are probably lovely, but they're still mongrels.
j4ckos mate said:
your second dog (the brown one) is the absolute image of ours,
you didnt get him from doncaster did you?
No, in Fife, she'll be 2 in July certainly a different character to the black one as she seems to be a bit more poodle but they are great fun. Bet you have fun keeping your dogs hair in condition as well then!you didnt get him from doncaster did you?
cheers
j4ckos mate said:
your second dog (the brown one) is the absolute image of ours,
you didnt get him from doncaster did you?
i would have a mongrel any day of the week, over a pure pedigree,
look up hybrid vigour.
myself and my daughter drove past a pure pedigree, i dont know what it was it looked like a mish mash of parts, it looked liike a bulldog, but very short, and its hind legs were alot bigger so it was constantly sloped down.
i think read somewhere that 1/3 of all king charles spaniels have a skull thas too smal for its brain, and they are bread this way ?
It's called Syringemyelia and yes it is hereditary and the BBC showed that pedigree show winning dogs with the condition are still being used as stud dogs, absolute disgrace, this is a miserable condition for the dogs to suffer from.you didnt get him from doncaster did you?
i would have a mongrel any day of the week, over a pure pedigree,
look up hybrid vigour.
myself and my daughter drove past a pure pedigree, i dont know what it was it looked like a mish mash of parts, it looked liike a bulldog, but very short, and its hind legs were alot bigger so it was constantly sloped down.
i think read somewhere that 1/3 of all king charles spaniels have a skull thas too smal for its brain, and they are bread this way ?
I'd agree with the point of particular health problems being 'bred in' to particular padigree breeds (you know what I mean), and that a mutt can be free of all that stuff.
On the subject of Labradoodles, jackahuahuas, etc, the daft names comw about only because we know the original breeds. Can you imagine going to the Dogs trust, and upon seeing a mongrel pup to be told that it was a labradoodlejackahuauabitofstaffiebullsh*tcan'treallybesurethemotherwasabitofaslapper!!
On the subject of Labradoodles, jackahuahuas, etc, the daft names comw about only because we know the original breeds. Can you imagine going to the Dogs trust, and upon seeing a mongrel pup to be told that it was a labradoodlejackahuauabitofstaffiebullsh*tcan'treallybesurethemotherwasabitofaslapper!!
celticpilgrim said:
I'd agree with the point of particular health problems being 'bred in' to particular padigree breeds (you know what I mean), and that a mutt can be free of all that stuff.
On the subject of Labradoodles, jackahuahuas, etc, the daft names comw about only because we know the original breeds. Can you imagine going to the Dogs trust, and upon seeing a mongrel pup to be told that it was a labradoodlejackahuauabitofstaffiebullsh*tcan'treallybesurethemotherwasabitofaslapper!!
Or "Chav" for short.On the subject of Labradoodles, jackahuahuas, etc, the daft names comw about only because we know the original breeds. Can you imagine going to the Dogs trust, and upon seeing a mongrel pup to be told that it was a labradoodlejackahuauabitofstaffiebullsh*tcan'treallybesurethemotherwasabitofaslapper!!
I agree. Mutt or Heinz was the old term. Did I read somewhere that they are trying to push Labradoodle as a genuine breed?
If thats the case, I want to register my Corgi x Terrier as a pure breed.
Yes, I know the Bassethound (for example) was a cross, but these days its getting stupid.
Yes, as you said, the prices of these crossbreed mutts is getting daft. £400+ for a 'doodle I saw one.
Utterly mad. Bit like the breed really. I have yet to see one that is NOT utterly loopy.
Still think its a way for backstreet breeders to make a few quid. Problem that is happening now is that 'doodles are being crossed with other 'doodles and losing that poodle coat.
There is one up the road that have poodle colouring but a Labrador coat that moults like hell. Sort of defeats the point of a hypoallergenic dog which I thought the original point was for the breed.
If thats the case, I want to register my Corgi x Terrier as a pure breed.
Yes, I know the Bassethound (for example) was a cross, but these days its getting stupid.
Yes, as you said, the prices of these crossbreed mutts is getting daft. £400+ for a 'doodle I saw one.
Utterly mad. Bit like the breed really. I have yet to see one that is NOT utterly loopy.
Still think its a way for backstreet breeders to make a few quid. Problem that is happening now is that 'doodles are being crossed with other 'doodles and losing that poodle coat.
There is one up the road that have poodle colouring but a Labrador coat that moults like hell. Sort of defeats the point of a hypoallergenic dog which I thought the original point was for the breed.
Edited by Morningside on Wednesday 18th May 13:12
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