The old Dog, raw meat/bone topic, who does ?
Discussion
After asking different vets and getting different answers, one said never any bones or raw meat only science plan kibble( which they sell ! ) and another (country ) vet saying they prefer dogs to have a BARF diet.
There are tonnes of opinions on the net, not many I deem based on anything else other than the owners hang ups/preferences. Everyone has a horror story or a dog who lived a 100 years etc etc etc
I decided to give the little fella a go on some tradional meaty treats after reading what was in the "premium" wet food, 51% at best, of animal derivatives. No thankyou not for my little chap.
So we now feed him same as before ( 2/3 dry, 1/3 wet ) the wet now being either beef liver, hearts, kidney, trimmings and joint tissue and lamb, mutton, chicken and beef meaty bones from the butcher. For some fresh veg we put all scraps of vegetable from slicing and preparing, and any scraps from plates ( inc stock ) cook it blend it and that goes with the bowl to "wet it up" a touch. basically making my own real wet dog food without all the crap in it.
The little chap loves it and has added a extra play into his day making him work for his dinner in the case of the bones.
Any one here do anything similar or dead against it ?
There are tonnes of opinions on the net, not many I deem based on anything else other than the owners hang ups/preferences. Everyone has a horror story or a dog who lived a 100 years etc etc etc
I decided to give the little fella a go on some tradional meaty treats after reading what was in the "premium" wet food, 51% at best, of animal derivatives. No thankyou not for my little chap.
So we now feed him same as before ( 2/3 dry, 1/3 wet ) the wet now being either beef liver, hearts, kidney, trimmings and joint tissue and lamb, mutton, chicken and beef meaty bones from the butcher. For some fresh veg we put all scraps of vegetable from slicing and preparing, and any scraps from plates ( inc stock ) cook it blend it and that goes with the bowl to "wet it up" a touch. basically making my own real wet dog food without all the crap in it.
The little chap loves it and has added a extra play into his day making him work for his dinner in the case of the bones.
Any one here do anything similar or dead against it ?
I feed complete raw. I cheat though and feed ready prepared Nature's Menu frozen nuggets. I also give a raw chicken wing a day and sometimes a frozen smoked bone filled with yoghurt and tuna. Taff looks very healthy on it. No additives so nothing to aggravate any allergies nor anything to make his behaviour any more odd than it already is!
Jasandjules said:
Meat and veg and so on we give to the dogs which is mixed in with their dry food. No more cooked bones though due to dentist expert vet not liking them. They go also get raw chicken now and again.
Pretty much the same here. He does get a prey dinner though. Sometimes it easier to stick the gun out the window and bag a rabbit than go to the supermarket.Moo27 said:
I would love to have the time to feed my dogs totally raw, and take away there kibble completely.
Easy enough if you feed complete frozen nuggets (or any other kind of complete raw food) from Nature's Menu, Natural Instinct and a few others.Remove from freezer. Measure out (count out number of nuggets). Defrost. Feed.
i must admit, the natures menu thing DOES look good! been reading up on the blocks as opposed to the nuggets!
They would each have one block per meal, which works out to be £72 a month, which is less than what we currently spend on there food!!
Proper gonna have to look in to this properly now!
They would each have one block per meal, which works out to be £72 a month, which is less than what we currently spend on there food!!
Proper gonna have to look in to this properly now!
Moo27 said:
They would each have one block per meal, which works out to be £72 a month, which is less than what we currently spend on there food!!
We can feed three dogs on less than that - and they are 8.5stone average weight.. And that includes raw meat, rice, vegetables and kibble...
Looked into a raw diet (for the stuff to be delivered) and it was £230 a month between the three of them...
neenaw said:
Stevenj214 said:
Any vet which recommended science plan to me would no longer receive my custom.
Why?Our vet recommended Science Plan for our Westie and Schnauzer. What kibble would be better?
I don't like the idea of any vet pushing something which may be more in the interest of the surgery and their bottom line over my pet.
This thread discussed it a bit further, including Science Plan's "prescription only" food.
As for which kibble, this website is a great start. I give my dog Arden Grange as my preferred balance between quality and price (4 stars on that site).
Edited by Stevenj214 on Saturday 14th May 19:02
Edited by Stevenj214 on Saturday 14th May 19:04
Mrs Grumpy said:
Easy enough if you feed complete frozen nuggets (or any other kind of complete raw food) from Nature's Menu, Natural Instinct and a few others.
Remove from freezer. Measure out (count out number of nuggets). Defrost. Feed.
Natures Menu is good stuff. Do they do a finer mince also so that you can pour the frozen content out more easily?Remove from freezer. Measure out (count out number of nuggets). Defrost. Feed.
nick_j007 said:
Mrs Grumpy said:
Easy enough if you feed complete frozen nuggets (or any other kind of complete raw food) from Nature's Menu, Natural Instinct and a few others.
Remove from freezer. Measure out (count out number of nuggets). Defrost. Feed.
Natures Menu is good stuff. Do they do a finer mince also so that you can pour the frozen content out more easily?Remove from freezer. Measure out (count out number of nuggets). Defrost. Feed.
I feed the nuggets as they are balanced and I don't have to worry about anything else :lazycow:Stevenj214 said:
neenaw said:
Stevenj214 said:
Any vet which recommended science plan to me would no longer receive my custom.
Why?Our vet recommended Science Plan for our Westie and Schnauzer. What kibble would be better?
I don't like the idea of any vet pushing something which may be more in the interest of the surgery and their bottom line over my pet.
This thread discussed it a bit further, including Science Plan's "prescription only" food.
As for which kibble, this website is a great start. I give my dog Arden Grange as my preferred balance between quality and price (4 stars on that site).
Edited by Stevenj214 on Saturday 14th May 19:02
Edited by Stevenj214 on Saturday 14th May 19:04
Most vets get very little back from food companies. They generally .... and this is the most shocking thing of all .... want to do what is best for their clients pet. As do the nurses who usually have a lot of say in which foods they are happy to recommend.
There are a few chain vets I wouldn't trust so much as I'm sure they do get big deals etc but to say you'd change vets over food is quite a reaction and a bit unfair really.
Mrs Grumpy said:
nick_j007 said:
Mrs Grumpy said:
Easy enough if you feed complete frozen nuggets (or any other kind of complete raw food) from Nature's Menu, Natural Instinct and a few others.
Remove from freezer. Measure out (count out number of nuggets). Defrost. Feed.
Natures Menu is good stuff. Do they do a finer mince also so that you can pour the frozen content out more easily?Remove from freezer. Measure out (count out number of nuggets). Defrost. Feed.
I feed the nuggets as they are balanced and I don't have to worry about anything else :lazycow:I have a weight watch dog whose owner feeds meat but cooked (he wouldn't feed raw) This is a 10kg dog who should weigh 7.5kg and is 9yrs old. He feeds 8oz meat a day. This doesn't seem like a huge amount but I wondered how much you feed your dogs so I could compare as I'm finding it hard to find a guideline thank you.
bexVN said:
I'd rather you didn't tar all vets with the same brush.
Most vets get very little back from food companies. They generally .... and this is the most shocking thing of all .... want to do what is best for their clients pet. As do the nurses who usually have a lot of say in which foods they are happy to recommend.
There are a few chain vets I wouldn't trust so much as I'm sure they do get big deals etc but to say you'd change vets over food is quite a reaction and a bit unfair really.
I have no problem with vets who have a Hill's display. Nor those who recommend it as a perfectly adequate food. The convenience of buying from the vet may suit some people.Most vets get very little back from food companies. They generally .... and this is the most shocking thing of all .... want to do what is best for their clients pet. As do the nurses who usually have a lot of say in which foods they are happy to recommend.
There are a few chain vets I wouldn't trust so much as I'm sure they do get big deals etc but to say you'd change vets over food is quite a reaction and a bit unfair really.
I do have an issue with vets who recommend it over all others or push the 'prescription' diet stuff as a dog food panacea.
This link for example grades dog foods. The 2 Science Plan food which have been graded get an F.
bexVN said:
Mrs Grumpy said:
nick_j007 said:
Mrs Grumpy said:
Easy enough if you feed complete frozen nuggets (or any other kind of complete raw food) from Nature's Menu, Natural Instinct and a few others.
Remove from freezer. Measure out (count out number of nuggets). Defrost. Feed.
Natures Menu is good stuff. Do they do a finer mince also so that you can pour the frozen content out more easily?Remove from freezer. Measure out (count out number of nuggets). Defrost. Feed.
I feed the nuggets as they are balanced and I don't have to worry about anything else :lazycow:I have a weight watch dog whose owner feeds meat but cooked (he wouldn't feed raw) This is a 10kg dog who should weigh 7.5kg and is 9yrs old. He feeds 8oz meat a day. This doesn't seem like a huge amount but I wondered how much you feed your dogs so I could compare as I'm finding it hard to find a guideline thank you.
Mrs Grumpy said:
bexVN said:
Mrs Grumpy said:
nick_j007 said:
Mrs Grumpy said:
Easy enough if you feed complete frozen nuggets (or any other kind of complete raw food) from Nature's Menu, Natural Instinct and a few others.
Remove from freezer. Measure out (count out number of nuggets). Defrost. Feed.
Natures Menu is good stuff. Do they do a finer mince also so that you can pour the frozen content out more easily?Remove from freezer. Measure out (count out number of nuggets). Defrost. Feed.
I feed the nuggets as they are balanced and I don't have to worry about anything else :lazycow:I have a weight watch dog whose owner feeds meat but cooked (he wouldn't feed raw) This is a 10kg dog who should weigh 7.5kg and is 9yrs old. He feeds 8oz meat a day. This doesn't seem like a huge amount but I wondered how much you feed your dogs so I could compare as I'm finding it hard to find a guideline thank you.
Edited by bexVN on Sunday 15th May 11:05
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