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They are LEDS (TMC) The tank is about 600L with lots of open space and 5 other fish. My P tang is currently about 4" long & hes happy and shows no stress at all. He forages for food and is content although he had some WS when he came out of QT. Later this year I will hopefuly be swapping to a 850L so I have an opportunity to rescape and have more corals etc.
paul26982 said:
have spoke to my cousin today he has fish etc, he reckons that marine arnt as hard to keep as they used to be. said that pets at home do the proper mix for the water etc now, just wanted to through this into the mix of the conversation
You sure he isnt winding you up? Pets at home dont even do marines, do they?I have an RO unit and mix up my own salt buckets, but thats only a small part of a big picture. They are hard to keep, I had my first tank running fine for a full year thinking whats everyones problem, its very easy as long as you keep on top of the maintenence etc. Then out of the blue i lost everything in my tank, well over £4k in livestock. Not forgiving in the slightest, there;s no room for mistakes at all.
Very modest setup compared to some posted already but I bet we have some of the happiest goldfish around. 4 small-medium sized fish in a 90 litre tank, two stage filtration and with RO water.
OK, so it's the way it should be done, but how many goldfish are put into the kitchen sink whilst the whole tank is scubbed out with bleach once a month?
Anyway - here they are:
OK, so it's the way it should be done, but how many goldfish are put into the kitchen sink whilst the whole tank is scubbed out with bleach once a month?
Anyway - here they are:
Soft Top said:
Very modest setup compared to some posted already but I bet we have some of the happiest goldfish around. 4 small-medium sized fish in a 90 litre tank, two stage filtration and with RO water.
OK, so it's the way it should be done, but how many goldfish are put into the kitchen sink whilst the whole tank is scubbed out with bleach once a month?
Anyway - here they are:
like the layout, plants etc.OK, so it's the way it should be done, but how many goldfish are put into the kitchen sink whilst the whole tank is scubbed out with bleach once a month?
Anyway - here they are:
paul26982 said:
have spoke to my cousin today he has fish etc, he reckons that marine arnt as hard to keep as they used to be. said that pets at home do the proper mix for the water etc now, just wanted to through this into the mix of the conversation
Ah, 600l is about 120G or so which should be fine for him then, and he'll certainly enjoy a bigger tank...... How do you rate the LEDs? Have you a PAR meter at all? IF so, have you tested the ratings at depths? Marines - they are not as hard as some people make out, BUT they are not simple by any means. With a few months of research though, I can't see why people can't start it. I'd never kept fish before I started a marine tank, we saw a long horn cowfish and had to have one (Do a google image search, they are funny as hell)...
RO water is needed as noted above. The salt is then mixed in (which is say £55 per 20kg bucket). Weekly/bi-weekly water changes, test the water regularly (Ammonia, Nitrate and Nitrate, and PH, and Specific Gravity), then if you have corals, you'll need to test the DKH (hardness), Calcium and Magnesium too. Oh, and of course Phosphate..... For each coral/fish you need to know you can accomodate it's needs (flow, light, heat, any predators, any fish they won't get along with). Ideally you want to run an auto top-up unit too to keep up with evaporation. It takes a fair bit of research, but it can be worth it......
Jasandjules said:
paul26982 said:
have spoke to my cousin today he has fish etc, he reckons that marine arnt as hard to keep as they used to be. said that pets at home do the proper mix for the water etc now, just wanted to through this into the mix of the conversation
Ah, 600l is about 120G or so which should be fine for him then, and he'll certainly enjoy a bigger tank...... How do you rate the LEDs? Have you a PAR meter at all? IF so, have you tested the ratings at depths? Marines - they are not as hard as some people make out, BUT they are not simple by any means. With a few months of research though, I can't see why people can't start it. I'd never kept fish before I started a marine tank, we saw a long horn cowfish and had to have one (Do a google image search, they are funny as hell)...
RO water is needed as noted above. The salt is then mixed in (which is say £55 per 20kg bucket). Weekly/bi-weekly water changes, test the water regularly (Ammonia, Nitrate and Nitrate, and PH, and Specific Gravity), then if you have corals, you'll need to test the DKH (hardness), Calcium and Magnesium too. Oh, and of course Phosphate..... For each coral/fish you need to know you can accomodate it's needs (flow, light, heat, any predators, any fish they won't get along with). Ideally you want to run an auto top-up unit too to keep up with evaporation. It takes a fair bit of research, but it can be worth it......
look very intrestingSoft Top said:
Very modest setup compared to some posted already but I bet we have some of the happiest goldfish around. 4 small-medium sized fish in a 90 litre tank, two stage filtration and with RO water.
OK, so it's the way it should be done, but how many goldfish are put into the kitchen sink whilst the whole tank is scubbed out with bleach once a month?
Anyway - here they are:
Looks really nice but the experts say 40L per fancy goldfish & 80L per single tail so you may have to go bigger come time. OK, so it's the way it should be done, but how many goldfish are put into the kitchen sink whilst the whole tank is scubbed out with bleach once a month?
Anyway - here they are:
P.S I'm slightly overcrowded too !
Anyone have one of those cool wall mounted fish tanks that looks like a wall mounted LCD TV, very very cool, saw them at the ideal home exibition last year, cant find the link to it though.
Went to see 7 seconds with Will Smith last week and he had the cylindrical glass tank with a jellyfish swimming about inside, amazing sight.
Went to see 7 seconds with Will Smith last week and he had the cylindrical glass tank with a jellyfish swimming about inside, amazing sight.
CO2000 said:
Looks really nice but the experts say 40L per fancy goldfish & 80L per single tail so you may have to go bigger come time.
P.S I'm slightly overcrowded too !
Well bugger me, you're absolutely correct, (Google confirms it). I'd never looked at that before just taken advice from the local shop who seem more than happy with out setup. Must quiz them on this next time we're in. Still could be up for a bigger tank. Woo hoo!P.S I'm slightly overcrowded too !
Mainly down to swimming room from what I can see which makes sense as the water quality is fine in our setup. Not sure what our guys would do with all the extra room though as they spend 90% of the time in the top right corner waiting for someone to pass who might feed them if they look hungry enough!Thanks for the advice.
I found this when i was researching marine aquariums last year, it's the equivalent of my Aston DB9 dream 
http://www.muzzys-reef.co.uk/tank-setup.htm
I think if i had the space for this, i could maybe get over my trepidation about keeping marine's.
Anyway, great story on the construction and cost, something like £8k i seem to remember!
http://www.muzzys-reef.co.uk/tank-setup.htm
I think if i had the space for this, i could maybe get over my trepidation about keeping marine's.
Anyway, great story on the construction and cost, something like £8k i seem to remember!
Soft Top said:
CO2000 said:
Looks really nice but the experts say 40L per fancy goldfish & 80L per single tail so you may have to go bigger come time.
P.S I'm slightly overcrowded too !
Well bugger me, you're absolutely correct, (Google confirms it). I'd never looked at that before just taken advice from the local shop who seem more than happy with out setup. Must quiz them on this next time we're in. Still could be up for a bigger tank. Woo hoo!P.S I'm slightly overcrowded too !
Mainly down to swimming room from what I can see which makes sense as the water quality is fine in our setup. Not sure what our guys would do with all the extra room though as they spend 90% of the time in the top right corner waiting for someone to pass who might feed them if they look hungry enough!Thanks for the advice.
I had 4 fancys in about 40L Tank for years & only found out actually how overcrowded they were when I looked on http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk (Great site by the way) for info on stocking a 60L tropical tank that we bought.
So we bought a Juwel Rio 180L & funnily enough my fish spend most of their time in the top left hand corner !
To be honest yours looks like they have plenty room for a while anyway but you can stunt their growth by overcrowding.
Cheers,
Co.
paul26982 said:
have spoke to my cousin today he has fish etc, he reckons that marine arnt as hard to keep as they used to be. said that pets at home do the proper mix for the water etc now, just wanted to through this into the mix of the conversation
Marines are very hard, and require a lot of effort and money. End of.Guffy said:
I found this when i was researching marine aquariums last year, it's the equivalent of my Aston DB9 dream
http://www.muzzys-reef.co.uk/tank-setup.htm
I think if i had the space for this, i could maybe get over my trepidation about keeping marine's.
Anyway, great story on the construction and cost, something like £8k i seem to remember!
stunning, not being funny but would have expaected that in a much better house, beautifull though, ideal set up, apart from the wood framehttp://www.muzzys-reef.co.uk/tank-setup.htm
I think if i had the space for this, i could maybe get over my trepidation about keeping marine's.
Anyway, great story on the construction and cost, something like £8k i seem to remember!
LeeThePeople said:
paul26982 said:
have spoke to my cousin today he has fish etc, he reckons that marine arnt as hard to keep as they used to be. said that pets at home do the proper mix for the water etc now, just wanted to through this into the mix of the conversation
You sure he isnt winding you up? Pets at home dont even do marines, do they?paul26982 said:
stunning, not being funny but would have expaected that in a much better house, beautifull though, ideal set up, apart from the wood frame
Bloody expensive for a fish tank, but then in terms of what people spend on their hobbies, not such a big deal - lots of cars worth 8k more than you need to spend for basic transport parked outside tiny houses, after all. My worry about doing something like that would be what you do when you move house - you can't take it with you, you can't move the livestock to a brand new tank, and while it's a huge selling point for a select few buyers, it's a big demerit for all those who aren't interested in taking on a big marine tank.
Having said that, I'm still going to work a bloody big built in tank into the design for our conservatory when we eventually get round to building it
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