Pocket door to en-suite
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Steve_W

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Wednesday 15th September 2010
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We're looking at how we'll lay out the extension and related en-suite when work starts in the spring and like the idea of a glass sliding door as there's not much room to play with if we use a conventional opening door.

Apart from any potential issues of not being a good seal for noises and noxious emissions - hopefully the extractor will deal with some of that - does anyone have any experience of these sort of doors?

Ironmongery Direct have a couple of glazed pocket doors from a firm called Eclisse which look the sort of thing we're after - anyone installed anything similar? glazed pocket door

Will have to check with the Building Regs folks if this is ok - and what width they'll accept - got to think of the wheelchair users!

Thanks,
Steve

Busamav

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Wednesday 15th September 2010
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There is no restriction that will affect you on the width to the ensuite door.

How many wheelchair users do you have ?

Steve_W

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Wednesday 15th September 2010
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Thankfully just one - and then only very infrequently when she's having more pain walking than the drugs can handle.

mk1fan

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Wednesday 15th September 2010
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Why not have the door open into the bedroom?

If space is such a premium why are you wanting to waste a long length of it on a double thick wall? A surface mounted sliding door might be better value.

Nobby Diesel

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Wednesday 15th September 2010
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mk1fan said:
Why not have the door open into the bedroom?

If space is such a premium why are you wanting to waste a long length of it on a double thick wall? A surface mounted sliding door might be better value.
No door at all - wey hey!

Steve_W

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mk1fan said:
Why not have the door open into the bedroom?

If space is such a premium why are you wanting to waste a long length of it on a double thick wall? A surface mounted sliding door might be better value.
If I had the drawings handy it might be easier to see; but opening into the bedroom either opens against the bed or the wardrobes depending on L or RHH.

The en-suite will be the other side of what was an external wall - hence me thinking to bury the sliding door in the wall by putting in a wider lintel over where the door will go (effectively using one for a double door) and the hidden part of the slider mechanism will be behind the bed head.

I hope that makes sense?

NoNeed

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Wednesday 15th September 2010
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There was a device on dragons den for getting rid of the noxious emissions.
I have no idea what it was called though, but it was a fan type device that took the smell into the main sewer pipe.

Steve_W

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Wednesday 15th September 2010
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Ta. Since the en-suite will be in the middle of the house it won't have windows so we'll need a good fan in there anyway - for both steam and stink I guess! smile

mk1fan

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Wednesday 15th September 2010
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Steve_W said:
If I had the drawings handy it might be easier to see; but opening into the bedroom either opens against the bed or the wardrobes depending on L or RHH.

The en-suite will be the other side of what was an external wall - hence me thinking to bury the sliding door in the wall by putting in a wider lintel over where the door will go (effectively using one for a double door) and the hidden part of the slider mechanism will be behind the bed head.

I hope that makes sense?
Yes it does.

I think you're creating a lot of work to hide the door mechanism. Assuming you have a cavity wall, is the cavity wide enough to take the door and sliding gear? Also, you'll need to 'extract' any wall ties. Then install more around the perimeter to compensate. Then you'll need to make sure the cavity is properly closed above the extension (again, assuming there is an exposed section) to ensure there's no water penitration (TBH this should be being done anyway).

Essentially and most easily, you'll be taking down and rebuilding a big section of wall rather than just forming a single door opening.

Why not just surface fix the sliding door to the wall in the en-suite. A couple of rubber seals will give you farting privacy.

m3jappa

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Wednesday 15th September 2010
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Building regs will be fine, i know because i spoke to them the other day with regard to a similar issue, i will be having a glass screen/door seperating bedroom and ensuite. They said as long as it passes the electrical test they don't care, sparkie said it would be fine (mine is a screen from floor to ceiling with a small gap around it)

hth

Steve_W

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Thursday 16th September 2010
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jappa - thanks for that.

mk1fan - that's an idea, but the door would need to slide back alongside the shower in a narrow gap - hence my idea of burying the door in the wall as at least you won't see a narrow gap full of dust etc. smile

The door is a solid brick one (1850's ish) so no worries re the cavity.

I appreciate it isn't the easiest/cheapest way to do this (hey - this is PH after all!), but I was thinking it might be the neatest.

Thanks for all the suggestions,
Steve