Buying new house with wrong paint
Buying new house with wrong paint
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BlueEyedBoy

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1,954 posts

219 months

Thursday 9th September 2010
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I'm in the process of buying a 17th century cottage and recently found out the owner has painted it in masonary paint to cut costs, which is causing rising damp.

I have investigated the costs of getting the paint shot blasted off, and its coming in at 5K.

We knew about damp when we put our offer in and had already planned on spending 10K on detracting the ground height and putting in a flemish drain, but had not expected this cost, I thought I would just need to paint the exterior. This is on top of another estimated 30K spend.

Firstly, would you go back to the owner and get this knocked off as the money tree is now in it winter clothes.

Secondly, does anyone know another method to remove paint that doesn't involve a scraper and a year of my life and will be cheaper, I like the owner and want to do this as cheaply as possible, but it needs to be done quickly?

Cheers

Zip106

15,872 posts

212 months

Thursday 9th September 2010
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So you'll be needing to replace the masonry emulsion with Lime wash?

As you'll need to get all the masonry EP off I'd say shot/sand blasting is the only economical way of doing it.
Not sure if you've got any comeback with the seller though - it seems like a case of Mr DIYer doing a bad job, that's all.



Edited by Zip106 on Thursday 9th September 20:06

BlueEyedBoy

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1,954 posts

219 months

Thursday 9th September 2010
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Yes, correct.

It was the vendor who applied the paint though, knowing that it was incorrect. The house is also Grade II listed, so not sure it that in itself was againt the rules. This only came out after we had the survey done and she told me on the phone when speaking to her. The survey on top of this has brought up another extra 17K of work we hadn't budgeted for that needs doing straight away, there is a limit to our funds and I feel that to save them a few hundred quid in paint, has now left me with a large bill that is a bit unfair as when I put my offer in, there is no way I could know the wrong paint was used.

Flintstone

8,644 posts

270 months

Thursday 9th September 2010
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She knew it was wrong but applied it anyway?

Some people are unbelievably stupid.

BlueEyedBoy

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219 months

Thursday 9th September 2010
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Flintstone said:
She knew it was wrong but applied it anyway?

Some people are unbelievably stupid.
Yes, because it was cheaper and the house would look better painted than not...

JR

14,138 posts

281 months

Thursday 9th September 2010
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BlueEyedBoy said:
a flemish drain,
Go on, I'll bite. What's that? Google throws up... you on this thread.

henrycrun

2,473 posts

263 months

Thursday 9th September 2010
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probably a - French Drain

BlueEyedBoy

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219 months

Thursday 9th September 2010
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lol, yes, I was recollecting the survey on the train smile French drain it is!

dickymint

28,424 posts

281 months

Thursday 9th September 2010
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Rising damp only gets to about 3 foot. So 5k divided by 5 minus cost of scafolding and you should have change out of £500 wink

paulrockliffe

16,371 posts

250 months

Thursday 9th September 2010
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Rising damp rises, so surely blasting off the bottom inch or two would stop it in it's tracks?

Zip106

15,872 posts

212 months

Thursday 9th September 2010
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paulrockliffe said:
Rising damp rises, so surely blasting off the bottom inch or two would stop it in it's tracks?
Yes, but then there'd be part of the walls unpainted, and you can't put lime wash on top of normal emulsion so it'd all need to come off.

Wacky Racer

40,647 posts

270 months

Thursday 9th September 2010
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dickymint said:
Rising damp only gets to about 3 foot. So 5k divided by 5 minus cost of scafolding and you should have change out of £500 wink
Wot he said.

Anyhow, can it not be blasted off with a good pressure washer by yourself in a few hours?

-Pete-

2,914 posts

199 months

Thursday 9th September 2010
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17th century Flemish external dado rail where the two paints meet? wink

Laurel Green

31,009 posts

255 months

Thursday 9th September 2010
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Zip106 said:
paulrockliffe said:
Rising damp rises, so surely blasting off the bottom inch or two would stop it in it's tracks?
Yes, but then there'd be part of the walls unpainted, and you can't put lime wash on top of normal emulsion so it'd all need to come off.
With no damp course, the water is wicked up by the brickwork. The water will then evaporate out through the walls/paintwork. Striping a couple of inches will not be sufficient to allow for this evaporation. From memory, rising damp will penetrate no more than 1.2 metres and, would say most of such area would be needed for the evaporation.
Mind, I'm no expert so, if required, the sticks are over there-->

Zip106

15,872 posts

212 months

Friday 10th September 2010
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-Pete- said:
17th century Flemish external dado rail where the two paints meet? wink
hehe A dado rail so low you'd stub your toe on it.

BlueEyedBoy

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219 months

Friday 10th September 2010
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Very good guys wink

As has already been said we need to take it all off so the lime paint will take plus the damp is already pretty much set in and is high up the walls and if we ever want the house to be close to dry I would rather do it properly once than patch it up.

I didn't think a pressure washer would work, and if I was to use it at the pressure needed, probably wouldn't have any external walls left plus a severe damp problem!
smile


Zip106

15,872 posts

212 months

Friday 10th September 2010
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I don't envy the person who's going to lime wash it - I've done a few in my time and it's fecking horrible stuff to use.

Are you going to do it yourself or get a pro in?

Deva Link

26,934 posts

268 months

Friday 10th September 2010
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BlueEyedBoy said:
Firstly, would you go back to the owner and get this knocked off as the money tree is now in it winter clothes.
I guess you can only ask. The vendor may or may not agree.

dickymint

28,424 posts

281 months

Friday 10th September 2010
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OK. You haven't said what's under the paint but I suspect it's lime render?

Whatever, you could use a chemical stripper. These guys should have it covered.

http://www.stripperspaintremovers.com/I_want_to_re...

TooLateForAName

4,912 posts

207 months

Friday 10th September 2010
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I'm also wondering whats underneath and what damage sandblasting is going to cause.

Strippers of sudbury have a good name.