struggling with white paint on doors etc

[steveo3002]

just been trying to paint some wooden window sills , door frames etc

its not come out nice , i used water based satin and a reasonble brush and i can see every brush mark , it didnt flow one bit

any ideas on whats the nicest paint to use ..something that will flow ?

is a good brush still the way to go , or a roller /foam brush

[garycat]

I think you would be better off using a solvent-based gloss for frames and sills. Water based paint is more suited for walls & ceilings.

[poo at Paul's]

garycat said:

I think you would be better off using a solvent-based gloss for frames and sills. Water based paint is more suited for walls & ceilings.

Yes, this is the best idea. The water based stuff is not easy to paint with, it dries too quick and brushmarks tend to be more prevelant, so you put it on thicker to cover them etc etc.

Get some satinwood and make sure it is solvent based. The bit of smell you have to contend with is a small price to pay for the end result and ease of use.

I was the same as you, struggled wiht the DIY chain stuff for years, then met some painters in my office building who painted a 4 floors stair banister in a day, and I was amazed how quick they did it, and how nice the result was. When I explianed the issue, he said straight away, use solvent based paint, and it really really is night and day!

[Humpy D]

But don't forget, generally water based paint stays whiter longer than oil based. Oil based paint also takes longer to dry.

I'm very much an oil based man - couldn't get on with the water based stuff at all for the same reasons mentioned. A friend who's a painter did say that you get a better finish if you do 2 coats of the water based paint.

[steveo3002]

i couldnt see this ever going on nice , wouldnt flow at all

is there a prefered brush type for solvent based paint ? natrual /nylon etc

[Simpo Two]

There's a reason why paint is solvent-based; it's better. The rest is just eco-claptrap IMHO. Same goes for Tipp-Ex and fence stain.

[steveo3002]

yeah the water based fence stain is a joke

i should have known better than to buy a eco product lol

[boxster9]

I have recently used solvent based Dulux Eggshell on skirting and doors/frames using a 'Dulux' brush. Did not get any brush marks at all. Eggshell gives a nice matt finish.

[Dogwatch]

steveo3002 said:

i couldnt see this ever going on nice , wouldnt flow at all

is there a prefered brush type for solvent based paint ? natrual /nylon etc

I have used a brush for gloss on doors but got good results from a gloss roller (not an ordinary fluffy one as a member of the family once tried).
Didn't have the real glossy sheen of a professional's finish but didn't have any runs either.
If you can find a Harris gloss roller and brush set you should be well set up. Sort of thing Woolies used to be good at.

Tip: if using one of the small roller trays put it on a handy surface - don't hold it like I did and find you've got so absorbed in the rollering that the tray has gradually tilted until...
Luckily the carpet was very old. Gloss never cleans out completely

[Tuna]

steveo3002 said:

just been trying to paint some wooden window sills , door frames etc

its not come out nice , i used water based satin and a reasonble brush and i can see every brush mark , it didnt flow one bit

any ideas on whats the nicest paint to use ..something that will flow ?

is a good brush still the way to go , or a roller /foam brush

How did you prepare the wood? Anything that takes the water out of the paint too quickly will kill the flow.

On the whole, more coats of thinner paint will give you better results than trying to lard it on.

[Nevin]

And a cheap crap brush is much more likely to give you brush marks, no matter how good you are. Nice fine brush, make sure the room is reasonably warm but well ventilated and the surface is prepared properly. Don't buy cheap crap paint either.

[steveo3002]

right update time

purchased some jonstones solvent based paint , £5 a tin vs £10 for the other tat , over the same prep it goes on lovely , with some care you cannot see hardly any brush marks at all , its great stuff , im very pleased

[Silver993tt]

Simpo Two said:

There's a reason why paint is solvent-based; it's better. The rest is just eco-claptrap IMHO. Same goes for Tipp-Ex and fence stain.

Not really true. I painted a complete conservatory in water based paint. My builders wanted to do it it oil based gloss.

So glad I didn't listen to them. I used Teknos paint. If I'd listened to the builders, 4-5 years later I would have to have rubbed down all of the wood work which would have been a complete nightmare on a large conservatory.

With thye Teknos water based paint, I simply washed it down with water and repainted giving an as new finish. So many "professionals" are out of date with these products it's quite unbelievable.

It saved me a fortune in time and I could easily do it myself avoiding any goons coming in to rip me off and do a st job as usual