Broken Window
Author
Discussion

Kit80

Original Poster:

4,764 posts

209 months

Saturday 9th January 2010
quotequote all
Thanks to some chav and a case of mistaken identity I have a broken front window and given the current weather this is not fun.

As I had just moved in I had not got house insurance sorted and the little scrote only has to pay £100 compensation at possibly a £1 a year, so am having to foot the bill myself. I have just been made redundant so I am trying to find it to be done as cheaply as possible but everywhere I phone keeps coming up with £300 confused

It UPVC double glazed, 5ft x 4ft 1, plain normal glass possibly needed to be toughened, but this just sounds so expensive frown any advice on how to cut the cost down? or am I being a cheap skate?

TIA

Spudler

3,985 posts

218 months

Saturday 9th January 2010
quotequote all
From your info the glass doesn't need to be safety glass, as a rule if its 800mm from the floor or less then it needs to be. £300 seems to be near the mark but you could do it cheaper yourself. Its only a bit of hassle but doable, if your interested let me know and and ill give you a run down.
Include a pic if you can.

Piglet

6,250 posts

277 months

Saturday 9th January 2010
quotequote all
Is it your own house or rented? Windows are covered under buildings insurance and if you've bought surely you must have this? If it's rented and you didn't cause the damage then talk to the Landlord, he should have insurance.

Kit80

Original Poster:

4,764 posts

209 months

Saturday 9th January 2010
quotequote all
It is my own house, but got bit complicated in divorce process house insurance was in his name and I moved out..well anyway you get the idea, complicated.

I did think about doing it myself will see if I can sort a photo.

R60EST

2,364 posts

204 months

Saturday 9th January 2010
quotequote all
If the existing window is upvc , replacing the glass should be straight forward . If it does require a whole new frame £300 is not that bad , even if you get loads of quotes I doubt you'd get it much below £250.

If it's just replacing the glass though , the cost of a new D/G unit would be about £30 trade in normal float glass or around £50 toughened . Fitting should take about 5 mins.

The glass company I use charges much less than the figures I've quoted so you really shouldn't need to pay more

VxDuncan

2,850 posts

256 months

Saturday 9th January 2010
quotequote all
Not 100% sure, but I assume you need a replacement sealed unit? Maybe talk to these people - would seem cheap?
http://www.christieglass.com/products.php

andye30m3

3,496 posts

276 months

Saturday 9th January 2010
quotequote all
R60EST said:
If the existing window is upvc , replacing the glass should be straight forward . If it does require a whole new frame £300 is not that bad , even if you get loads of quotes I doubt you'd get it much below £250.

If it's just replacing the glass though , the cost of a new D/G unit would be about £30 trade in normal float glass or around £50 toughened . Fitting should take about 5 mins.

The glass company I use charges much less than the figures I've quoted so you really shouldn't need to pay more
Agree with the above.

I got quoted around £4-500 each for new upvc mock sash windows which are around 800x1200mm which were not going to be easy to fit. So replacement glass must be a fraction of this .

Where abouts are you as someone maybe able to recommend a smaller local firm.

Kit80

Original Poster:

4,764 posts

209 months

Saturday 9th January 2010
quotequote all
No its just the glass I need there is nothing wrong with the frame, in fact one pane of glass is still in tact but have been told I would need 2 new peices of glass.

Spudler

3,985 posts

218 months

Saturday 9th January 2010
quotequote all
The bulk of your quotes is labour, thats why i suggested you could do it cheaper yourself. You wont get a 1500x1200 unit for £30 tho, allow around the £50-60, probably more for a retail sale.

jjones

4,478 posts

215 months

Saturday 9th January 2010
quotequote all
ring some double glazing companies ask for a second hand unit - some places will sell you one.

Kit80

Original Poster:

4,764 posts

209 months

Saturday 9th January 2010
quotequote all
Am being thick here I think..I don't need a whole new unit? I don't think, just one pane of glass was broken, which is why I feel it is expensive but then I have never done this before so had nothing to compare with.

Spudler

3,985 posts

218 months

Saturday 9th January 2010
quotequote all
The term "unit" refers to the two sheets of glass sealed together with a spacer in between to form a cavity, usually filled with gas. The glass unit is most likely kept in place by beads on the inner side of the frame (internal beading), you can whip one of these out with a clean filler knife and see how easy it is to replace.
Not worth bothering with a second hand unit, the chances of it being the exact size AND the right size spacer are slim to say the least.

Edited by Spudler on Saturday 9th January 14:05

Kit80

Original Poster:

4,764 posts

209 months

Saturday 9th January 2010
quotequote all
Ah I see, I was being thick. Thanks for explaining it.

Simpo Two

90,910 posts

287 months

Saturday 9th January 2010
quotequote all
I recently had to have a d/g unit made up, about 33 x 18". It was £75.

Th eglass unit is held into the PVC frame by four strips of beading, either from inside or outside. The idea is that you can prise the beading out, then remove the glass unit from the PVC frame, then place the new unit in position (there should be some spacers underneath within the frame) and tap the beading back in.

Very easy, just watch your hands on the glass edges - and try not to damage the beading getting it out!

Edited by Simpo Two on Saturday 9th January 14:46

BliarOut

72,863 posts

261 months

Saturday 9th January 2010
quotequote all
What technique/tools are people using to get the beading out? I'm going to replace a unit when it gets a bit warmer.

Simpo Two

90,910 posts

287 months

Saturday 9th January 2010
quotequote all
BliarOut said:
What technique/tools are people using to get the beading out? I'm going to replace a unit when it gets a bit warmer.
I've succesfully used a wide chisel and a few taps with a hammer (but do not profess to be an expert). If you're changing the glass then at least you dont have to worry about scratching the glass, but avoid damaging the beading. The first bit will bethe hardest - lever it up in the middle of the longest side until the mitres are free.

Wings

5,924 posts

237 months

Saturday 9th January 2010
quotequote all
Simpo Two said:
BliarOut said:
What technique/tools are people using to get the beading out? I'm going to replace a unit when it gets a bit warmer.
I've succesfully used a wide chisel and a few taps with a hammer (but do not profess to be an expert). If you're changing the glass then at least you dont have to worry about scratching the glass, but avoid damaging the beading. The first bit will bethe hardest - lever it up in the middle of the longest side until the mitres are free.
Either a taper hacking knife or a stiff bladed filler knife will remove the plastic beading.

Wings

5,924 posts

237 months

Saturday 9th January 2010
quotequote all
Kit80 said:
It is my own house, but got bit complicated in divorce process house insurance was in his name and I moved out..well anyway you get the idea, complicated.

I did think about doing it myself will see if I can sort a photo.
If you are near to Bristol, then I can obtain a very good price for the unit, plus a good price for fitting, or my wife will assist you in fitting the same. Having rented properties it is a common remedial work for us.

Pcot

863 posts

204 months

Saturday 9th January 2010
quotequote all
Where in the country are you?

The cost of replacing the said double glazed unit would be approx £50 fitted.

Kit80

Original Poster:

4,764 posts

209 months

Saturday 9th January 2010
quotequote all
Am in Lincoln, willing to pay anyones travel expenses and fee if they can better my quotes biggrin