Can I use CAR diesel in a boiler that burns kerosene 28???
Can I use CAR diesel in a boiler that burns kerosene 28???
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scotmum

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193 months

Friday 8th January 2010
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I am very close to running out (about inch in the tank, long pipe, the boiler keeps locking out) and the next possible delivery (from ANY supplier) is over a week away.... I got completely caught out - didn't realise one can burn 500 liters in one month. My stupid fault.

But anyway, I was wondering whether I could just top up the tank temporarily with some car diesel? There was a post somewhere here warning against using the tractor diesel in a particular boiler model, and I know that agricultural diesel/tractor diesel is kerosene 35, so it will presumably be too sticky for my boiler, but is the normal car diesel the same?

Also, will not using the system in such temepreatures as we have now damage it? Assuming we manage to keep the house itself from freezing by using the living room open fire, the oven and a couple of oil radiators?

My boiler is Worcester Heatslave 20/25.


THANKS!!!!

[huddling closer to the hearth]

Ferg

15,242 posts

279 months

Friday 8th January 2010
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Yes, DERV is 35 second.

You might be lucky and burn it in a burner set-up for 28 second, but I doubt it. Certainly I'd expect it to need a nozzle change and maybe a pressure change resulting in the inevitable air shutter adjustment.
We used to fit pre-heaters to the old Riello G40s to burn 35 sec.

scotmum

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193 months

Friday 8th January 2010
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Thanks!!! That's what I thought myslef (and it's not even my boiler so I certainly don't want to mess it up with sticky fuel...).

Does anybody know if there is a a place anywhere in Scotland (closer to Perth the better) that sells drums or have a yard pump??????

buggalugs

9,264 posts

259 months

Friday 8th January 2010
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I got my 28 sec to burn a few gallons of parrafin once when I got caught short so to speak... Twas a rented house though smile

scotmum

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193 months

Friday 8th January 2010
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Well, this is what I am now contemplating - but I can't find the figure for the viscosity of paraffin. Won't it blow up or something, asuming we can survive through the night and get to B&Q or wherever I can buy some?

My house is also rented, by the way - that makes me MORE worried about f****ing the laird's property up.

Ferg

15,242 posts

279 months

Friday 8th January 2010
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Kerosene and paraffin are both 28 second, I believe.

xllifts

3,724 posts

225 months

Friday 8th January 2010
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If you can change the nozzle, or and i shouldn't advise this but if you are desperate you can mix Parrafin with diesel to change the viscosity i believe.

cptsideways

13,816 posts

274 months

Friday 8th January 2010
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Heating oil is is the same as winter grade diesel, think you'll find diesel may well wax up in exposed pipes etc

RWA28

703 posts

246 months

Friday 8th January 2010
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We ran out last week due to the delivery tanker being unable to get to our house (private lane up a hill, not had our cars up here for over 2 weeks now grumpy )
We rang our supplier and they offer 5 gallon drums, the oil price is slightly higher and you pay £5 for the drum. We got 6 and it was enough to kick start our Bosch Heatslave 25/32 without the need to bleed etc.

Give them a ring (or another supplier) and get as many as you need till your delivery. It worked out as 52p per litre plus £5 drum fee so still cheaper than the diesel.

scotmum

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Friday 8th January 2010
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RWA28, this is exactly what I was looking for - but I ran 8 places today and nobody offered drums, I think the problem is not so much access (our road is clear and I had a tesco shop delivered today, but more a masive backlog all the suppliers have - crown oil even said they are not taking new people at all. But if I could get drums, I would drive and get a couple myself which should tie us over until they come. I will try again though tomorrow thy will probably be all closed.... Where are you located?

BTW our normal quoted price seems to be about 55p per litre anyway.

Actually, I have sealed half the windows with blankets and camping mats (single-glazed listed cottage, metal windows from 1920's, all iced up even when the heating was on), piled on the coal in the fire, triple wrapped the children and reembered that, as my 8 year old reminded me "in olden days people didn't have central heating".... so we will probably survive, just stay very dirty (actually, the hot water is more of a pain than heating).

I don't know about winter-grade diesel, is it what they automatically sell now in garages? Our car is diesel, and I haven't been driving it much recently, but when I tried it started with no problems at all.




Edited by scotmum on Friday 8th January 21:46

V8A*ndy

3,697 posts

213 months

Saturday 9th January 2010
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Petrol stations were I live offer emergency drums for sale.