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jamoor

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14,506 posts

237 months

Friday 11th December 2009
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Is it me or has the building trade got the highest rate of trolls per capita?

I have a few k sitting in my pocket burning a hole, ready to be spent with a builder of some sort, essentially a building needs some plastic cladding on.

I have called several people from yell.co.uk, and recommendation from plastic suppliers, they usually say, "yep I will be there on this day or that day to have a look" and never show up, 2 people have actually shown up one I haven't heard anything from, the other I chased up and he ended up texting his quote. I didn't want to deal with someone who texts quotes so he was out there and then.

Is there something I am missing? Do I need to hire some sort of contractor to keep them in check or something?

fatboy b

9,662 posts

238 months

Friday 11th December 2009
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Try Rated People website. It's not quite so hit and miss, plus they have to pay to get the lead, so they're more likely to want to actually do some work for you.

jamoor

Original Poster:

14,506 posts

237 months

Friday 11th December 2009
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fatboy b said:
Try Rated People website. It's not quite so hit and miss, plus they have to pay to get the lead, so they're more likely to want to actually do some work for you.
Nice one, will have to see if there are any trolls on there biggrin

jamoor

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14,506 posts

237 months

Friday 11th December 2009
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Wow, had three people already!

shirt

24,967 posts

223 months

Friday 11th December 2009
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i think builders must be immune to the downturn, can be the only explanation.

i need three quotes for a heritage grant. as i don't know anyone local to give me a recommendation, and wanted 3 quotes from builders i was satisfied with i made appointments with 10 of them over a 3 day period.

only 2 turned up.

speed8

5,103 posts

295 months

Sunday 13th December 2009
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Yeah, I've used ratedpeople in the past. I wasn't so lucky with builders but I got a decent painter from there who done a good job.

sider

2,059 posts

243 months

Sunday 13th December 2009
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Jamoor - really sorry - im one of those trolls! Sorry!

I've been speaking to another guy about a different option and we're getting material prices at the moment.

As soon as i have the price, will get something over!

Again, sorry for the delay!

darronwall

1,730 posts

218 months

Sunday 13th December 2009
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i am in the plastic job and if somebody rings me for a price im there as quick as,you cant afford not to be,not in this climate! we have work but the phone is hardly ringing off the wall
what amazes me most is peoples lack of ability to price a job up,i could tell you within 2 minutes of looking at it exactly what it would cost

Edited by darronwall on Sunday 13th December 13:43

gtr-gaz

5,258 posts

268 months

Sunday 13th December 2009
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Good reliable tradespeople don't need to advertise.

That's what it boils down to.

darronwall

1,730 posts

218 months

Sunday 13th December 2009
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gtr-gaz said:
Good reliable tradespeople don't need to advertise.

That's what it boils down to.
your dead right! it makes me mad paying the yellow pages bill but i feel you have got to be in that

Vron

2,541 posts

231 months

Sunday 13th December 2009
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Yep I had the same issue - large building job needed (£100K ish were the other quotes), one(recommended) firm in Sheffield said I had to send them a copy of the architects drawings and a letter asking what I wanted and they would quote from that. A bit of a pain as the drawings were big so I had to go to a printing shop and pay for large copies to be made. Anyhow, a few weeks later I had heard nothing. Rang the builder to be screamed at (and I am not exagerating) that who did I think I was expecting a quote back after only 3 weeks. He never did get back to me either - tosser.

jamoor

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14,506 posts

237 months

Sunday 13th December 2009
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Vron said:
Yep I had the same issue - large building job needed (£100K ish were the other quotes), one(recommended) firm in Sheffield said I had to send them a copy of the architects drawings and a letter asking what I wanted and they would quote from that. A bit of a pain as the drawings were big so I had to go to a printing shop and pay for large copies to be made. Anyhow, a few weeks later I had heard nothing. Rang the builder to be screamed at (and I am not exagerating) that who did I think I was expecting a quote back after only 3 weeks. He never did get back to me either - tosser.
Now that's a trolling, I don't understand why they don't flat out refuse to do the work or make some elaborate excuse not to do the work, just as long as everyone knows where they stand.

wiffmaster

2,615 posts

220 months

Monday 14th December 2009
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Not just builders. Had an electrician come over a few months back to quote a job and he spend about two hours here looking over everything. Seemed a nice chap and took his time writing notes, etc. Said he'd get back to us with a quote - never did. Same with a roofer who potentially lost a £10k insurance claim job. Wasted their own time and our time.

Our builder's worked for us for years and we've now found a decent electrician and plumber. However, their waiting times can be absolutely months and they are never short of work - you can't get them to come around for emergency stuff as they simply don't have the time. Seems if a workman is any good, they are still incredibly busy, even in this recession.

K50 DEL

9,625 posts

250 months

Monday 14th December 2009
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I've had some good tradespeople through ratedpeople and currently have a number of people working on my place that I found through www.mybuilder.com


lewes

361 posts

198 months

Monday 14th December 2009
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Its very similar with plumbing and heating engineers.

My dad is a heating engineer and built up a business with upto 30 guys on the tools, he sold the business and is now back on his tools and loves it. His time keeping is bad but is getting better !!!

I think some of the problem is that there are a lot of rogue customers out there so existing customers tend to get first option. Plus sometimes the job doesnt run as smooth as he would hope

ln1234

848 posts

220 months

Monday 14th December 2009
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K50 DEL said:
I've had some good tradespeople through ratedpeople and currently have a number of people working on my place that I found through www.mybuilder.com
i've used mybuilder quite a lot as well. You do get a LOT of timewasters, or people quote £1000 to do simple jobs, but good people are on there as well.

K50 DEL

9,625 posts

250 months

Monday 14th December 2009
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ln1234 said:
K50 DEL said:
I've had some good tradespeople through ratedpeople and currently have a number of people working on my place that I found through www.mybuilder.com
i've used mybuilder quite a lot as well. You do get a LOT of timewasters, or people quote £1000 to do simple jobs, but good people are on there as well.
Definately, I had someone try and tell me the labour charge to change a mixer tap would be 190 +VAT this morning..... He got discarded straight away!

saleen836

12,134 posts

231 months

Wednesday 16th December 2009
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Am having the same problem trying to find a carpet fitter to fit out a 3 bed house, so far 2 have made apointments to come and measure up and then don't turn up, 2 have not returned my call, 1 has said he will call back the next day when he gets in to the office for his diary and 1 has turned up measured up and have heard nothing since!

PistonReg

339 posts

215 months

Wednesday 16th December 2009
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I'll have to check out your recommnedation sites. I've used checkatrade before and found a decent plumber on there. One of the guys had clearly been writing his own reveiws and came in at twice the price of th eother 2 quotes. He went as far as telling me I'd need to get building control invoveed to replace a sink myself if I didn't let him do it :-O

jules_s

4,971 posts

255 months

Wednesday 16th December 2009
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jamoor said:
Vron said:
Yep I had the same issue - large building job needed (£100K ish were the other quotes), one(recommended) firm in Sheffield said I had to send them a copy of the architects drawings and a letter asking what I wanted and they would quote from that. A bit of a pain as the drawings were big so I had to go to a printing shop and pay for large copies to be made. Anyhow, a few weeks later I had heard nothing. Rang the builder to be screamed at (and I am not exagerating) that who did I think I was expecting a quote back after only 3 weeks. He never did get back to me either - tosser.
Now that's a trolling, I don't understand why they don't flat out refuse to do the work or make some elaborate excuse not to do the work, just as long as everyone knows where they stand.
No, that's not trolling its quite normal.

If you want a builder to give you a quote, then expect to give them the information and time to do just that.....correctly scaled plans and specs etc

Three weeks is fair(ish) but if you don't put a deadline on it expect your quote to be put on the 'things to do' list wink