re-boarding a bedroom ceiling..

re-boarding a bedroom ceiling..

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Merritt

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1,645 posts

245 months

Friday 25th September 2009
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Im going to set about reboarding a bedroom ceiling & my plasterer has advised that I should remove the high points of the artex before putting the new boards up.

Is a metal scraper the easiest way to do this or is there a better option?

(btw the house is only 9 yrs old so no asbestos)


Steve

Brite spark

2,067 posts

208 months

Friday 25th September 2009
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wall paper steamer is supposed to soften it, not sure I would go at it with just a scraper.

quick google also found this
http://www.diydoctor.org.uk/projects/artex.htm

whilst trying to find something that may of been a myth about putting wall paper paste on it, but couldn't find anything

Simpo Two

87,040 posts

272 months

Friday 25th September 2009
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Brite spark said:
wall paper steamer is supposed to soften it, not sure I would go at it with just a scraper.
I tried a steamer once and frankly it was no use at all. I think the simplest way would be as per Plan A, namely bash the points off and skim over.

Busamav

2,954 posts

215 months

Friday 25th September 2009
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The back of a broom will have a good go at it ,

or use a large wide bladed scraper , available from any good decorating shop.

Will take no time at all , but makes a hell of a mess , I wouldnt go near it with a steam stripper.


B17NNS

18,506 posts

254 months

Friday 25th September 2009
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Why are you overboarding? Assuming no asbestos risk simply knock off the high points with a floor scraper and skim.

Tuna

19,930 posts

291 months

Friday 25th September 2009
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Where's the fun in a little scraper? Get an angle grinder!

Or rent a floor sander and work out some means to stick it to the ceiling..




... ok, so it's been a long week and I'm tired.

VxDuncan

2,850 posts

241 months

Friday 25th September 2009
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B17NNS said:
Why are you overboarding? Assuming no asbestos risk simply knock off the high points with a floor scraper and skim.
+1 I assume you have a sound flat ceiling already, covered in artex? Wouldn't bother adding the extra weight of plaster board, reducing the ceiling height and loading the joists. knock off the high spots and skim...

Merritt

Original Poster:

1,645 posts

245 months

Saturday 26th September 2009
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Thanks for all the comments and advice.

I am overboarding because the current ceiling boards are a little warped in places (I guess they may have become damp or wet at some point). Also, when I spoke to three plasterers, they all told me that whilst they could knock off the high points and plaster straight on to the ceiling, the results would be better if I overboarded and the plaster would be more likely to stay attached to the ceiling.

Ive got the plasterboard in the garage now so I may as well continue down that route wink

Thanks again.

Steve

B17NNS

18,506 posts

254 months

Saturday 26th September 2009
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biggrin A decent spread will get exactly the same results whatever the background. Spreading boards however is much lighter work especially if you can get your client to stick them to the ceiling for you. wink

sleep envy

62,260 posts

256 months

Saturday 26th September 2009
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be aware that some types of artex had asbestos in them - wear a decent mask!!!

motco

16,227 posts

253 months

Saturday 26th September 2009
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I seriously suggest you consider this Clipso
I have used it in my son's flat and it provides a perfect ceiling concealing a multitude of sins behind it. It takes far less time and effort than reboarding. If you are interested I can supply the details of the UK supplier.

RizzoTheRat

25,995 posts

199 months

Saturday 26th September 2009
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If you're putting up new boards anyway it's not a lot more work to rip out the old plasterboard, complete with the artex, and then fix the new boards to the joists is it?

Engineer1

10,486 posts

216 months

Saturday 26th September 2009
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RizzoTheRat said:
If you're putting up new boards anyway it's not a lot more work to rip out the old plasterboard, complete with the artex, and then fix the new boards to the joists is it?
+1 why not just replace all the ceiling boards? sounds like a more sensible and quality job.

VxDuncan

2,850 posts

241 months

Saturday 26th September 2009
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... well that would be the best way to do it, but seriously don't underestimate the amount of dust, distruption and effort this takes. Your house WILL be full of dust for months to come.

Kermit power

29,469 posts

220 months

Saturday 26th September 2009
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Hmm.....


Let's see.....


House only nine years old?


And you already need to resurface the ceiling in the bedroom???


I am struggling to arrive at anything other than the obvious conclusion...... biggrin


Merritt

Original Poster:

1,645 posts

245 months

Sunday 27th September 2009
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Engineer1 said:
RizzoTheRat said:
If you're putting up new boards anyway it's not a lot more work to rip out the old plasterboard, complete with the artex, and then fix the new boards to the joists is it?
+1 why not just replace all the ceiling boards? sounds like a more sensible and quality job.
Would be a good idea if the plasterboard walls were not overlapping the edges of the ceiling plasterboard. Removing the existing ceiling boards will damage the top of the wall plasterboard..

As for the dust - absolutely.. loads of it everywhere!