Landline equivalents to BT?
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Due to an utterly relentless barrage of absolutly cack service from BT, I wish to dispense with what they laughingly call their "service". Unfortunately, living in an area without mobile coverage we need a landline, so who is any good? Virgin seem to be a possibility. Is there anyone else that would be recommended?
k off didnt workI believe Virgin are the only cable company, sky just use the last bit of the BT cable to provide the landline and broadband to the house. There are number of other 'providers' that also use the BT Openreach cabling but on what is called 'carrier pre-select' basis, the likes of Carphone Warehouse I think are one. So you still have BT in the loop, just billed by the 'new' provider. Bit like your gas and elec suppliers.
So might depend on what sort of runaround you have been getting from BT. If it related to the cabling, then this wont change with another supplier, BT Openreach will still have to fix faults, if its billing etc then yes it would be a different supplier. Grass may not always be greener though!
So might depend on what sort of runaround you have been getting from BT. If it related to the cabling, then this wont change with another supplier, BT Openreach will still have to fix faults, if its billing etc then yes it would be a different supplier. Grass may not always be greener though!
LaserTam said:
Grass may not always be greener though!
I switched line rental from BT to TalkTalk, not so much for the saving but because the BT bills drove me crazy.TalkTalk bill: X calls @ Yp each = £Z to pay.
BT bill: Scheme A plus Scheme B minus Option 1 divided by 14/31ths, less Calling Package, multiplied by Friends & Family in arrears, plus advance billing until 12th May of 30 days at £1.21 a day minus Scheme A...
There are basically two networks that connect end users to a telephone system. The one operated by BT Openreach and the one operated by Virgin.
To use the Virgin phone network you must get your phone service from Virgin (and if you want broadband your internet from them as well). Virgin do not have to allow competition over their network infrastructure.
To use the BT phone network you can get your phone service from a number of providers as well as BT, including Tiscali, Sky and Talk Talk. These work by having your line "unbundled" which means that the likes of Sky have equipment in the BT exchange which routes the calls onto their own system, so some part of the call's journey will be on the BT network, some will be on th Sky network and perhaps some on other networks. Ultimately the aluminium* cable between you and the exchange belongs to BT, so even if with Sky if you have a line fault it will be a BT engineer that comes out to your house, just sky will have to request the engineer.
To use the Virgin phone network you must get your phone service from Virgin (and if you want broadband your internet from them as well). Virgin do not have to allow competition over their network infrastructure.
To use the BT phone network you can get your phone service from a number of providers as well as BT, including Tiscali, Sky and Talk Talk. These work by having your line "unbundled" which means that the likes of Sky have equipment in the BT exchange which routes the calls onto their own system, so some part of the call's journey will be on the BT network, some will be on th Sky network and perhaps some on other networks. Ultimately the aluminium* cable between you and the exchange belongs to BT, so even if with Sky if you have a line fault it will be a BT engineer that comes out to your house, just sky will have to request the engineer.
- a lot of the copper in the final mile is aluminium, because it is cheaper.
onomatopoeia said:
There are basically two networks that connect end users to a telephone system. The one operated by BT Openreach and the one operated by Virgin.
To use the Virgin phone network you must get your phone service from Virgin (and if you want broadband your internet from them as well). Virgin do not have to allow competition over their network infrastructure.
To use the BT phone network you can get your phone service from a number of providers as well as BT, including Tiscali, Sky and Talk Talk. These work by having your line "unbundled" which means that the likes of Sky have equipment in the BT exchange which routes the calls onto their own system, so some part of the call's journey will be on the BT network, some will be on th Sky network and perhaps some on other networks. Ultimately the aluminium* cable between you and the exchange belongs to BT, so even if with Sky if you have a line fault it will be a BT engineer that comes out to your house, just sky will have to request the engineer.
the conductors being aluminium is because it was put in during the 70's all newer cables are copper .the engineer who comes out will be an Openreach engineer not a BT engineer to be pedantically accurate .To use the Virgin phone network you must get your phone service from Virgin (and if you want broadband your internet from them as well). Virgin do not have to allow competition over their network infrastructure.
To use the BT phone network you can get your phone service from a number of providers as well as BT, including Tiscali, Sky and Talk Talk. These work by having your line "unbundled" which means that the likes of Sky have equipment in the BT exchange which routes the calls onto their own system, so some part of the call's journey will be on the BT network, some will be on th Sky network and perhaps some on other networks. Ultimately the aluminium* cable between you and the exchange belongs to BT, so even if with Sky if you have a line fault it will be a BT engineer that comes out to your house, just sky will have to request the engineer.
- a lot of the copper in the final mile is aluminium, because it is cheaper.
bimsb6 said:
onomatopoeia said:
There are basically two networks that connect end users to a telephone system. The one operated by BT Openreach and the one operated by Virgin.
To use the Virgin phone network you must get your phone service from Virgin (and if you want broadband your internet from them as well). Virgin do not have to allow competition over their network infrastructure.
To use the BT phone network you can get your phone service from a number of providers as well as BT, including Tiscali, Sky and Talk Talk. These work by having your line "unbundled" which means that the likes of Sky have equipment in the BT exchange which routes the calls onto their own system, so some part of the call's journey will be on the BT network, some will be on th Sky network and perhaps some on other networks. Ultimately the aluminium* cable between you and the exchange belongs to BT, so even if with Sky if you have a line fault it will be a BT engineer that comes out to your house, just sky will have to request the engineer.
the conductors being aluminium is because it was put in during the 70's all newer cables are copper .the engineer who comes out will be an Openreach engineer not a BT engineer to be pedantically accurate .To use the Virgin phone network you must get your phone service from Virgin (and if you want broadband your internet from them as well). Virgin do not have to allow competition over their network infrastructure.
To use the BT phone network you can get your phone service from a number of providers as well as BT, including Tiscali, Sky and Talk Talk. These work by having your line "unbundled" which means that the likes of Sky have equipment in the BT exchange which routes the calls onto their own system, so some part of the call's journey will be on the BT network, some will be on th Sky network and perhaps some on other networks. Ultimately the aluminium* cable between you and the exchange belongs to BT, so even if with Sky if you have a line fault it will be a BT engineer that comes out to your house, just sky will have to request the engineer.
- a lot of the copper in the final mile is aluminium, because it is cheaper.
chr15b said:
bimsb6 said:
onomatopoeia said:
There are basically two networks that connect end users to a telephone system. The one operated by BT Openreach and the one operated by Virgin.
To use the Virgin phone network you must get your phone service from Virgin (and if you want broadband your internet from them as well). Virgin do not have to allow competition over their network infrastructure.
To use the BT phone network you can get your phone service from a number of providers as well as BT, including Tiscali, Sky and Talk Talk. These work by having your line "unbundled" which means that the likes of Sky have equipment in the BT exchange which routes the calls onto their own system, so some part of the call's journey will be on the BT network, some will be on th Sky network and perhaps some on other networks. Ultimately the aluminium* cable between you and the exchange belongs to BT, so even if with Sky if you have a line fault it will be a BT engineer that comes out to your house, just sky will have to request the engineer.
the conductors being aluminium is because it was put in during the 70's all newer cables are copper .the engineer who comes out will be an Openreach engineer not a BT engineer to be pedantically accurate .To use the Virgin phone network you must get your phone service from Virgin (and if you want broadband your internet from them as well). Virgin do not have to allow competition over their network infrastructure.
To use the BT phone network you can get your phone service from a number of providers as well as BT, including Tiscali, Sky and Talk Talk. These work by having your line "unbundled" which means that the likes of Sky have equipment in the BT exchange which routes the calls onto their own system, so some part of the call's journey will be on the BT network, some will be on th Sky network and perhaps some on other networks. Ultimately the aluminium* cable between you and the exchange belongs to BT, so even if with Sky if you have a line fault it will be a BT engineer that comes out to your house, just sky will have to request the engineer.
- a lot of the copper in the final mile is aluminium, because it is cheaper.
bimsb6 said:
chr15b said:
bimsb6 said:
onomatopoeia said:
There are basically two networks that connect end users to a telephone system. The one operated by BT Openreach and the one operated by Virgin.
To use the Virgin phone network you must get your phone service from Virgin (and if you want broadband your internet from them as well). Virgin do not have to allow competition over their network infrastructure.
To use the BT phone network you can get your phone service from a number of providers as well as BT, including Tiscali, Sky and Talk Talk. These work by having your line "unbundled" which means that the likes of Sky have equipment in the BT exchange which routes the calls onto their own system, so some part of the call's journey will be on the BT network, some will be on th Sky network and perhaps some on other networks. Ultimately the aluminium* cable between you and the exchange belongs to BT, so even if with Sky if you have a line fault it will be a BT engineer that comes out to your house, just sky will have to request the engineer.
the conductors being aluminium is because it was put in during the 70's all newer cables are copper .the engineer who comes out will be an Openreach engineer not a BT engineer to be pedantically accurate .To use the Virgin phone network you must get your phone service from Virgin (and if you want broadband your internet from them as well). Virgin do not have to allow competition over their network infrastructure.
To use the BT phone network you can get your phone service from a number of providers as well as BT, including Tiscali, Sky and Talk Talk. These work by having your line "unbundled" which means that the likes of Sky have equipment in the BT exchange which routes the calls onto their own system, so some part of the call's journey will be on the BT network, some will be on th Sky network and perhaps some on other networks. Ultimately the aluminium* cable between you and the exchange belongs to BT, so even if with Sky if you have a line fault it will be a BT engineer that comes out to your house, just sky will have to request the engineer.
- a lot of the copper in the final mile is aluminium, because it is cheaper.
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