Running computers 24 hours a day

Running computers 24 hours a day

Author
Discussion

x5x3

Original Poster:

2,424 posts

260 months

Thursday 24th September 2009
quotequote all
I am planning to run some computers 24 hours a day at home - what should I be putting in place in terms of electrical supply?

It would probably be one Mac server, one Windows server, one broadband modem and a router (probably use Airport on Timemachine).



Thanks in advance!

Scraggles

7,619 posts

231 months

Thursday 24th September 2009
quotequote all
UPS - helps with spikes and thunderstorms

got a friend who runs his several pc's 24/7

seems to help

john_p

7,073 posts

257 months

Thursday 24th September 2009
quotequote all
You won't need anything more dramatic than a single mains socket and a powerstrip. You could get a UPS of some sort if power is unreliable where you live.

x5x3

Original Poster:

2,424 posts

260 months

Thursday 24th September 2009
quotequote all
I was wondering whether it was worth getting a new mains ring put in?

dundarach

5,371 posts

235 months

Thursday 24th September 2009
quotequote all
new ring mains....

Are you not in fact a super villain with plans of world domination.....????

I have a couple of PC's on all the time, never had any bother than straight into the wall - but then again there not mission critical Mr. Blowfelt!

GreenDog

2,261 posts

199 months

Thursday 24th September 2009
quotequote all
I used to work for a software house and we were based in a a very old rectory building. We ran all of our PC's as well as Unix servers, modems, UPS and all of the other paraphernalia we needed straight off the normal ring main withoug a problem so I think your 2 small servers will be just fine.

I've just gor one of those gadgets that shows you how much electricity you're currently using. Feck me the microwave and shower don't half make the numbers jump up compared to the computer equipment or anything else in the house.

P924

1,272 posts

189 months

Thursday 24th September 2009
quotequote all
I wouldn't bother with an additional ring, Computers generally use very little electricity. I would recommend a UPS though (as has been said). Make sure it outputs a pure sine wave.

Tuna

19,930 posts

291 months

Thursday 24th September 2009
quotequote all
If you're doing it on the cheap and have one lying around, you can substitute a laptop for a PC + UPS.

Computers draw relatively little power (equivalent to a couple of lightbulbs), so you can leave them on without heavily loading your mains.

Running costs are:

Guess at 200 watts for PC + router

In 24 hours = 200 * 24 = 4.8kWh
In 1 year = 4.8 * 365 = 1752 kWh

At 11p/kWh (your electricity tariff may be more or less) = £193

Note that your particular set up might draw twice as much or half as much as that - this is just an illustration using fair guesses. If you're buying new kit to do the job, take care to pick stuff that's energy efficient.

Edited to add: you can get a energy meter from Maplins for about £20 that you can use to measure how much power your equipment is actually drawing.



Edited by Tuna on Thursday 24th September 15:08

Busamav

2,954 posts

215 months

Thursday 24th September 2009
quotequote all
P924 said:
. I would recommend a UPS though (as has been said). .
another vote for a ups, only be about £60 for 5 minutes or so of safety


eps

6,436 posts

276 months

Thursday 24th September 2009
quotequote all
Busamav said:
P924 said:
. I would recommend a UPS though (as has been said). .
another vote for a ups, only be about £60 for 5 minutes or so of safety
Any particular recommendations?

eldar

22,740 posts

203 months

Thursday 24th September 2009
quotequote all
My PC is around 130w, server around 200w, screens & router another 50w & laptop 25w, total around 400w.Around about 5p/hour (or £400 or so a year.) Keeps the room warm in winter, thoughsmile

ndg

572 posts

244 months

Thursday 24th September 2009
quotequote all
But do you need the screens on 24/7?

N.

Arese

21,062 posts

194 months

Thursday 24th September 2009
quotequote all
eps said:
Busamav said:
P924 said:
. I would recommend a UPS though (as has been said). .
another vote for a ups, only be about £60 for 5 minutes or so of safety
Any particular recommendations?
I've always used APC.

eliot

11,727 posts

261 months

Thursday 24th September 2009
quotequote all
Another vote for a UPS. As I've had to upgrade from old school fuses/nails to fancy RCD's any slighest wiff of a fault and bang, the whole ring dies. In fact the beeping from the UPS is a handy reminder!
And DONT bother with a feed for it - I've seen entire 42U racks running of a double socket on the wall (not that I would reccomend it mind you)
Leave the screens switched off and select low power equipment - not the fastest most powerful server as they chug the power.

Busamav

2,954 posts

215 months

Thursday 24th September 2009
quotequote all
Arese said:
eps said:
Busamav said:
P924 said:
. I would recommend a UPS though (as has been said). .
another vote for a ups, only be about £60 for 5 minutes or so of safety
Any particular recommendations?
I've always used APC.
same here , we have 2 APC units that just sit there doing their job

Steve_D

13,795 posts

265 months

Thursday 24th September 2009
quotequote all
Peeps are advising UPS but so far I have not seen the OP suggesting that anything he is doing is critical.
How long will a UPS hold up two PCs? Not too long I suspect so you have to be nearby to panic save anything before the system goes down.
In a business with IT support then this is fine but for home use needs a fair bit of justification.

Steve

UpTheIron

4,017 posts

275 months

Thursday 24th September 2009
quotequote all
Steve_D said:
Peeps are advising UPS but so far I have not seen the OP suggesting that anything he is doing is critical.
How long will a UPS hold up two PCs? Not too long I suspect so you have to be nearby to panic save anything before the system goes down.
In a business with IT support then this is fine but for home use needs a fair bit of justification.

Steve
Any remotely half decent UPS will trigger a controlled system shutdown.

eliot

11,727 posts

261 months

Thursday 24th September 2009
quotequote all
I've got a smart-ups 700, which will run my kit for half an hour. At first I thought it was overkill, but they are handy.

Arese

21,062 posts

194 months

Thursday 24th September 2009
quotequote all
Steve_D said:
Peeps are advising UPS but so far I have not seen the OP suggesting that anything he is doing is critical.
How long will a UPS hold up two PCs? Not too long I suspect so you have to be nearby to panic save anything before the system goes down.
In a business with IT support then this is fine but for home use needs a fair bit of justification.

Steve
As UpTheIron says, APC UPS' come with Powerchute software which will initiate a clean shutdown when power is low. Is that enough justification? wink

fastfreddy

8,577 posts

244 months

Friday 25th September 2009
quotequote all
Also a UPS will protect against short duration drop-outs which is often the cause of bigger problems like PSU failures and hard disc crashes.

I run all our workstations and servers 24/7 but turn off monitors at night. Like engines, a cold start-up is usually the time when most wear occurs and failures can happen.