Stupid Kitchen Tap Design - washer swap

Stupid Kitchen Tap Design - washer swap

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TedMaul

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2,092 posts

220 months

Tuesday 15th September 2009
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Have swan neck mixer tap in kitchen. Cold water feed is fine, but hot water output has reduced in recent months to a tiny trickle. Tap barely opens 1/4 of a turn. Pressure is ok I think as hot taps in downstairs wc and in utility are fine and other hot taps and shower are ok. Sure it is just washers on hot tap side of mixer.

Problem is, I can't get at it? All other taps I have seen, you flip off the top, unscrew the tap handle which exposes the mechanism so you can remove it and replace washer. This one has no obvious way of removing washer & mechanism. To add to the joy, the isolater valve leaks like hell when you close it so will probably have to drain the hot water system. Nice.

Can't load pic of tap but it looks like this one:

http://www.diy.com/diy/jsp/bq/nav.jsp?action=detai...

robinhood21

30,845 posts

239 months

Tuesday 15th September 2009
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According to the info on the web-link they have a ceramic disc cartridge, so the cartridge will have to be replaced (I believe). Does it have one of those flexible hose tap connectors? If so, it might have a kink in it, thus preventing a good flow of water.
On getting at the cartridge/washer; does the tap have a small grub-screw holding the handle on? If not it might just pull off. Then unscrew the round bit at the base of the shaft to get at the nut holding the cartridge/washer.

TedMaul

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2,092 posts

220 months

Tuesday 15th September 2009
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robinhood21 said:
According to the info on the web-link they have a ceramic disc cartridge, so the cartridge will have to be replaced (I believe). Does it have one of those flexible hose tap connectors? If so, it might have a kink in it, thus preventing a good flow of water.
On getting at the cartridge/washer; does the tap have a small grub-screw holding the handle on? If not it might just pull off. Then unscrew the round bit at the base of the shaft to get at the nut holding the cartridge/washer.
No flexible hose at all, all copper pipe.

Ahhh I see yes - the bit that looks solid may be a cover, yank tap off, remove cover to expose cartridge nut. Good thinking. I didn't see a grub screw, but maybe try harder getting tap head off. I'll look tonight!

Hate plumbing. Really hate plumbing....

Ricky_M

6,618 posts

226 months

Wednesday 16th September 2009
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As already said, handle will probably have a grub screw holding it on, then unscrew the shroud to expose the tap body, then you'll be able to get a spanner on it to undo the tap assembly.

You don't need to drain the entire hot water system, your hot water cylinder should have a gate valve on the cold feed, turn that off and it shuts off the hot water with out the need to drain the tank.

You can buy a set of 1/2" ceramic disc tap bodies for £20 from b+q.

TedMaul

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2,092 posts

220 months

Thursday 17th September 2009
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Ricky_M said:
As already said, handle will probably have a grub screw holding it on, then unscrew the shroud to expose the tap body, then you'll be able to get a spanner on it to undo the tap assembly.

You don't need to drain the entire hot water system, your hot water cylinder should have a gate valve on the cold feed, turn that off and it shuts off the hot water with out the need to drain the tank.

You can buy a set of 1/2" ceramic disc tap bodies for £20 from b+q.
Thanks for the info, not had chance to have proper look yet but it sounds reasonable!

squicky

274 posts

187 months

Thursday 17th September 2009
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Another thing to bear in mind, it may not be the ceramic cartridge, instead it may be the diffuser being scaled up.

I was having a similar problem with my tap and the problem turned out to be the diffuser screwed into the end of the tap. (Of course I only found out after taking apart the tap...)

TedMaul

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2,092 posts

220 months

Friday 18th September 2009
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squicky said:
Another thing to bear in mind, it may not be the ceramic cartridge, instead it may be the diffuser being scaled up.

I was having a similar problem with my tap and the problem turned out to be the diffuser screwed into the end of the tap. (Of course I only found out after taking apart the tap...)
Hmm thats interesting - when I turn on the hot water only, it starts off fairly slow but as the temperature of the water increases, it reduces to a trickle. The hotter the water, the slower the flow but this symptom only affects the hot tap part of the mixer....

JERRYCO

140 posts

230 months

Friday 18th September 2009
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Not sure how to take tap off without seeing it. But i'm sure its just a washer not ceramic cartridge, ceramic cartridge only turn 1/4 turn, rubber washer will turn 2turns or so!