Replacing Garage?
Discussion
I'm moving into my new flat next month and I'm not too impressed with the garage!
It currently has what appears to be an asbestos sheet garage with a metal frame on a concrete base.
If the garage is asbestos, do I need to get specialists in to dismantle it and remove it or can I do it myself? I'm guessing that if I need to get someone in to do it, it's going to be pretty expensive?
Secondly, once the old garage is removed, could I fit a wooden shed/garage/workshop as people have posted in other threads here without any planning permission if it's the same dimensions as the garage I'm removing?
It currently has what appears to be an asbestos sheet garage with a metal frame on a concrete base.
If the garage is asbestos, do I need to get specialists in to dismantle it and remove it or can I do it myself? I'm guessing that if I need to get someone in to do it, it's going to be pretty expensive?
Secondly, once the old garage is removed, could I fit a wooden shed/garage/workshop as people have posted in other threads here without any planning permission if it's the same dimensions as the garage I'm removing?
I think Asbestos has to be removed by a specialist, or something similar. There was a thread about it a while ago.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Should be something in there covering it.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Should be something in there covering it.
When I took mine down last month, I went to the tip and they gave me some plastic sheeting to wrap it up in. Make sure you tape it all up secure and try not to break any, then take it back to the tip and you put it in a container for asbestos waste.
You should be able to see on your local councils website about if you need planning permission or not for a new building, it may fall under permitted development rules.
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2008/uksi_20082362_en_...
You should be able to see on your local councils website about if you need planning permission or not for a new building, it may fall under permitted development rules.
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2008/uksi_20082362_en_...
You can take an amount of Asbestos to your local tip.
If you intend to dismantle it yourself, soak it thoroughly in water first. Wear disposable overalls and a quality mask. Wrap the sheets in plastic and write 'Asbestos' on it with a marker. Try not to break any of it.
I had a single asbestos garage removed in Staffordshire last year by a proper registered company. Cost was £300 plus VAT.
The guys who did the work said that the type of asbestos used in garages was not particularly hazardous.
If you intend to dismantle it yourself, soak it thoroughly in water first. Wear disposable overalls and a quality mask. Wrap the sheets in plastic and write 'Asbestos' on it with a marker. Try not to break any of it.
I had a single asbestos garage removed in Staffordshire last year by a proper registered company. Cost was £300 plus VAT.
The guys who did the work said that the type of asbestos used in garages was not particularly hazardous.
neenaw said:
........once the old garage is removed, could I fit a wooden shed/garage/workshop?........
In this area and I suspect others you are not allowed to put up a wooden structure within a metre of the boundary. So if you want to make the most of your space then you will need to use brick or concrete.Steve
Look on you local council website. Mine clearly states they will collect domestic asbestos as long as you follow the correct sealing up and labelling requirements. You can do it yourself - you're looking at disposable overalls, P3 rated respirator, preferably an outside shower rigged up, and everything damped down. There's plenty of guidance on the web. Important thing is not to break it up at all, and no power tools.
Alternatively, a friend had a similar garage removed by the professionals for £550...
Alternatively, a friend had a similar garage removed by the professionals for £550...
Cheers guys, if it's not going to be too expensive I might just get someone in to remove the old garage!
As for the replacement, I think I might have to look into te local planning regs to see what I can and can't do with regards the replacement garage. If wood isn't allowed within a metre of the boundary, I may have to start looking into some of the preformed concrete garage or suchlike.
As for the replacement, I think I might have to look into te local planning regs to see what I can and can't do with regards the replacement garage. If wood isn't allowed within a metre of the boundary, I may have to start looking into some of the preformed concrete garage or suchlike.
National Permitted Development Rights (PDR) guidelines on Sheds/Outbuildings and other structures : (from the Planning Portal)
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Rules governing outbuildings apply to sheds, greenhouses and garages as well as other ancillary garden buildings such as swimming pools, ponds, sauna cabins, kennels, enclosures (including tennis courts) and many other kinds of structure for a purpose incidental to the enjoyment of the dwellinghouse.
No outbuilding on land forward of a wall forming the principal elevation.
Outbuildings and garages to be single storey with maximum eaves height of 2.5 metres and maximum overall height of four metres with a dual pitched roof or three metres for any other roof.
Maximum height of 2.5 metres in the case of a building, enclosure or container within two metres of a boundary of the curtilage of the dwellinghouse.
No verandas, balconies or raised platforms.
No more than half the area of land around the "original house"* would be covered by additions or other buildings.
In National Parks, the Broads, Areas of Outstanding Natural Beauty and World Heritage Sites the maximum area to be covered by buildings, enclosures, containers and pools more than 20 metres from house to be limited to 10 square metres.
On designated land* buildings, enclosures, containers and pools at the side of properties will require planning permission.
Within the curtilage of listed buildings any outbuilding will require planning permission.
"
Plus Building Regs (on outbuildings) :
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This section provides you with general information to help you comply with the Building Regulations when constructing a new outbuilding within the boundaries of an existing property, such as:
garage or carport
summerhouse or shed
greenhouse
Building a new garage attached to an existing home would normally need building regulations approval.
Building a new attached carport (open on at least two sides) would not normally require building regulations approval if it is less than 30 square metres in floor area.
Building a detached garage of less than 30 square metres floor area would not normally need building regulations approval if:
the floor area of the detached garage is less than 15 square metres.
the floor area of the garage is between 15 square metres and 30 square metres, provided the garage is at least one metre from any boundary, or it is constructed from substantially non-combustible materials.
"
Of course if you want something larger than that, or if parts of it fall outside PDR, you can apply for Planning Permission then Building Control..
HTH
"
Rules governing outbuildings apply to sheds, greenhouses and garages as well as other ancillary garden buildings such as swimming pools, ponds, sauna cabins, kennels, enclosures (including tennis courts) and many other kinds of structure for a purpose incidental to the enjoyment of the dwellinghouse.
No outbuilding on land forward of a wall forming the principal elevation.
Outbuildings and garages to be single storey with maximum eaves height of 2.5 metres and maximum overall height of four metres with a dual pitched roof or three metres for any other roof.
Maximum height of 2.5 metres in the case of a building, enclosure or container within two metres of a boundary of the curtilage of the dwellinghouse.
No verandas, balconies or raised platforms.
No more than half the area of land around the "original house"* would be covered by additions or other buildings.
In National Parks, the Broads, Areas of Outstanding Natural Beauty and World Heritage Sites the maximum area to be covered by buildings, enclosures, containers and pools more than 20 metres from house to be limited to 10 square metres.
On designated land* buildings, enclosures, containers and pools at the side of properties will require planning permission.
Within the curtilage of listed buildings any outbuilding will require planning permission.
"
Plus Building Regs (on outbuildings) :
"
This section provides you with general information to help you comply with the Building Regulations when constructing a new outbuilding within the boundaries of an existing property, such as:
garage or carport
summerhouse or shed
greenhouse
Building a new garage attached to an existing home would normally need building regulations approval.
Building a new attached carport (open on at least two sides) would not normally require building regulations approval if it is less than 30 square metres in floor area.
Building a detached garage of less than 30 square metres floor area would not normally need building regulations approval if:
the floor area of the detached garage is less than 15 square metres.
the floor area of the garage is between 15 square metres and 30 square metres, provided the garage is at least one metre from any boundary, or it is constructed from substantially non-combustible materials.
"
Of course if you want something larger than that, or if parts of it fall outside PDR, you can apply for Planning Permission then Building Control..
HTH
I replaced a tin sheet garage with a wooden one. Same dimensions, same colour etc, On the boundary (with a field).
Our council required us to apply for PP. I warn you on this one - it does not represnt a repair of the structure, and we had to demolish the old building - again this required some sort of permission as it was near the boundary. I don't think they would have known but we were doing a lot of work at the same time and didn't want that compromised.
The timber garage has had to be lined with fire retardent material for the back metre of so of it.
Our council required us to apply for PP. I warn you on this one - it does not represnt a repair of the structure, and we had to demolish the old building - again this required some sort of permission as it was near the boundary. I don't think they would have known but we were doing a lot of work at the same time and didn't want that compromised.
The timber garage has had to be lined with fire retardent material for the back metre of so of it.
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