Price me a new Kitchen?

[dibbers006]

How much do you think it would cost to have cupboards made to roughly 4m x 4m as in this diagram.

I'm talking small Flat budget, not rustic mansion

Fitted Kitchen stylee. Perhaps a new oven. Nothing too flash. Nice worksurface much more important that the quality of cupboard.

I was thinking of asking somewhere like Ikea to give me a rough price but presumably it will be cheaper if I fit it all?

Please don't go all snobby on me

Technical Drawing

[pork n beef]

is that the spider from the thread where the guy tried to pay an invoice with said spider?

[Le Mans Visitor]

Go to the Ikea website and use their kitchen planner, I did it, so simple to use and my new kitchen is awesome.

[dibbers006]

Le Mans Visitor said:

Go to the Ikea website and use their kitchen planner, I did it, so simple to use and my new kitchen is awesome

Doesn't work on Mac

[Dupont666]

dibbers006 said:

Le Mans Visitor said:

Go to the Ikea website and use their kitchen planner, I did it, so simple to use and my new kitchen is awesome

Doesn't work on Mac

Use kitchens direct, get the design they give you and then look around for a decent price.

Just ignore the constant phone calls of them nagging if you want a good price, a better price or an unbelievable price...

[Simpo Two]

That looks more like a board game to me. Do I have to throw a six to start?

[Deva Link]

dibbers006 said:

How much do you think it would cost to have cupboards made to roughly 4m x 4m as in this diagram.

When you say "made", if you buy from Ikea or one of the DIY sheds you're stuck with standard sizes.

For our last kitchen we went to a local kitchen manufacturer and they sell fully assembled units in whatever sizes you like. The only snag with using them was they they really only operate on a supply only basis, so we had to arrange the plaster, fitting, tiling and buy the appliances ourselves.

Kitchen fitting isn't hard (perhaps except for cutting worktops) but a lot depends on your capability, and it's a bit dodgy messing around with water, gas and electricity yourself, particularly if you really are in flat and a mistake could impact other flats.

[dibbers006]

Ah, ok. I didn't realise they were all standard sizes. That explains the crap build quality and wasted space of my current arrangement. You would think in such a small space they would really make the most of it but no

Plaster, fitting, tiling and appliances not a problem so just obtaining the units is key really. I won't be moving where the current white goods are (location wise)

[Dupont666]

dibbers006 said:

Ah, ok. I didn't realise they were all standard sizes. That explains the crap build quality and wasted space of my current arrangement. You would think in such a small space they would really make the most of it but no

Plaster, fitting, tiling and appliances not a problem so just obtaining the units is key really. I won't be moving where the current white goods are (location wise)

SO go to a good carpenter and get them to do it in your design?

[dibbers006]

We have one who made us wardrobes and a few bits and pieces before but I was wondering how that cost compared to the ready to go jobbies.

[Dupont666]

dibbers006 said:

We have one who made us wardrobes and a few bits and pieces before but I was wondering how that cost compared to the ready to go jobbies.

Hand cut or mass made, from MDF or solid wood?

your design or someone elses?

The framework can be done to your sepc and then source the gloss doors from somewhere else?

[Deva Link]

dibbers006 said:

Ah, ok. I didn't realise they were all standard sizes. That explains the crap build quality and wasted space of my current arrangement. You would think in such a small space they would really make the most of it but no

Plaster, fitting, tiling and appliances not a problem so just obtaining the units is key really. I won't be moving where the current white goods are (location wise)

Look in Yellow Pages for Kitchen Manufacturers in your area. http://www.yell.com

[andy43]

Bear in mind the cheese cupboards will have to be refrigerated - that'll add to the cost.
And re-siting the spider might be a specialist job too.

[Simpo Two]

dibbers006 said:

Ah, ok. I didn't realise they were all standard sizes.

All kitchen units, unless lovingly crafted by knarled old men in hidden barns, are in standard sizes, usually going in multiples of 10cm.

The normal course of action is to fill as much of the 'run' as possible with these, and then any gap is either hidden by a corner unit or, if visible, a small fillet panel fitted.

To my mind a chipboard box is a chipboard box, whether from B&Q or Snobbo-Kitsch Gmbh. What makes the difference is soft-close runners and hinges, and of course the worktop, appliances and finishing touches - in short, the bits you see and touch.

[okgo]

Nice use of 'ceiling cat'

[Deva Link]

Simpo Two said:

To my mind a chipboard box is a chipboard box, whether from B&Q or Snobbo-Kitsch Gmbh.

Cupboard and shelf edges that don't easily chip or wear away are handy.

Ours (custom built, even the doors, in local kitchen workshop/factory) still looks brand new after 10 years and was ballpark the same price as B&Q etc.

[dibbers006]

Dupont666 said:

The framework can be done to your spec and then source the gloss doors from somewhere else?

Good shout. I will look into that.

Deva Link said:

looks brand new after 10 years

If I am still in this boxy flat in ten years I may have to jump out the window! Nothing of that quality/ price required!

[garycat]

Could also try http://www.wrenkitchens.com/

They have a planner which adds up the cost.

[zcacogp]

Simpo Two said:

To my mind a chipboard box is a chipboard box, whether from B&Q or Snobbo-Kitsch Gmbh. What makes the difference is soft-close runners and hinges, and of course the worktop, appliances and finishing touches - in short, the bits you see and touch.

Ding dong. Apt thread for me, this one. I fitted a (cheap-o) Wickes kitchen in our house a couple of years ago. Didn't spend much on it, but really took the time to carefulyl assemble and install it. Now, two years later, we are still delighted with the result; it looks and feels like an expensive kitchen, and friends regularly look at it and comment on the fact that it must have cost a bomb.

Last week I helped a friend install a new kitchen at his pad, custom-made by Bauformat in Germany. It cost a LOT more than ours, and all came ready-assembled. However the quality of the cabinets was significantly worse than that of the flat-packed Wickes ones, one cabinet was the wrong size, the ready-cut worktops were the wrong length, the colour was wrong and the doors were drilled incorrectly for the specified handles. As with ours, I installed it as well as I possibly could, but to say I wasn't impressed was an understatement.

Buy a cheap kitchen and expensive fittings (lights, taps, tiles, hinges etc). And install it well. You won't regret it.


Oli.

[Dupont666]

zcacogp said:

Simpo Two said:

To my mind a chipboard box is a chipboard box, whether from B&Q or Snobbo-Kitsch Gmbh. What makes the difference is soft-close runners and hinges, and of course the worktop, appliances and finishing touches - in short, the bits you see and touch.

Ding dong. Apt thread for me, this one. I fitted a (cheap-o) Wickes kitchen in our house a couple of years ago. Didn't spend much on it, but really took the time to carefulyl assemble and install it. Now, two years later, we are still delighted with the result; it looks and feels like an expensive kitchen, and friends regularly look at it and comment on the fact that it must have cost a bomb.

Last week I helped a friend install a new kitchen at his pad, custom-made by Bauformat in Germany. It cost a LOT more than ours, and all came ready-assembled. However the quality of the cabinets was significantly worse than that of the flat-packed Wickes ones, one cabinet was the wrong size, the ready-cut worktops were the wrong length, the colour was wrong and the doors were drilled incorrectly for the specified handles. As with ours, I installed it as well as I possibly could, but to say I wasn't impressed was an understatement.

Buy a cheap kitchen and expensive fittings (lights, taps, tiles, hinges etc). And install it well. You won't regret it.


Oli.

This is my plan... though the issue I have is trying to get everything done at the same time.

And then getting a good set of carcases made to my spec... everytime I hand the plans to someone, they promise to get back to me and then nothing and the communication goes to nothing.

The only company who harrass me is kithcens direct and after reading peoples experiences with them, they are a no...