Painting Kitchen Cupboards

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ali_kat

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32,032 posts

228 months

Saturday 22nd August 2009
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Any hints please?

At the moment they are a dark wood, which makes the small kitchen very dark. The kitchen tiles are a very pale green with the 'plaster' showing round the edges (it's a rented house - I can't rip the tiles off and re-do them frown But I do have permissiion to paint the cupboards)



The colours I'm thinking of are (I'd put the colours up, but you'd not see them on the screen hehe)

Dulux - Apple White
Dulux - Salisbury Stone 4
F&B - Tunsgate Green
Fired Earth - Lime White

All are greeny hinted to match the tiles (walls are magnolia)

I know how much work it will be to prep them, wash with sugar soap, sand, wash again then prime with the suitable base for the top coat, but that is where I'm confused...

but I'm not sure if I need to use Oil based, vinyl based (neither of whcih seem to be available anymore on the shelf - have to order them!) or if I can just use Satinwood (Dulux) or Eggshell (Dulex).

PH I need your help please smile

trev540

256 posts

216 months

Saturday 22nd August 2009
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I would go to a proper decorators merchants not a D.I.Y shed and ask about Zinnser primers followed by two coats of Dulux Satin wood but may need three coats to cover that dark wood.

Overhaulin

1,651 posts

212 months

Saturday 22nd August 2009
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I used Plasti-Kote Cupboard Colours, but it did take a lot to get an even finish, plus I doubt they do it in the colour you have chosen.

The doors will need a really good clean/degrease (Weekend fryups).
Then a reasonable light sanding to get a good key.

As yours are dark I would think of using a primer/undercoat first.
Then a reasonable light sanding to get

Can you get the colour you want in the Dulux Endurance range?. I've found it too be quite good.
Also from your pic it looks quite dark overall so I would be looking at a satin finish rather than eggshell.

Another option would be replacement doors if you can shop around you may get some in the right colour but most are beige or white.

xllifts

3,724 posts

210 months

Saturday 22nd August 2009
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Ali wavey As already mention use Zinser primer and then you can use what colour you like. Go to a decent decoraters merchant such as http://www.brewers.co.uk/ who i believe are at 18 Penhill Ind Pk Beaumont Rd, Banbury, OX16 1RW 01295 275698ý

Used them all the time when renovating houses hope this he;ps you in your quest for the light!!!

Wings

5,841 posts

222 months

Saturday 22nd August 2009
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As a landlord I would not give any tenant permission to paint kitchen units door/draw fronts, particularly if they have a melamine finish. They may look presentable after a coat of primer and top coat paints, but once in use it is indivertible that the surface will both scratch and chip. There can be no substitute for the replacement of the door and draw fronts.

Simpo Two

87,030 posts

272 months

Saturday 22nd August 2009
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ali_kat said:
but I'm not sure if I need to use Oil based, vinyl based (neither of whcih seem to be available anymore on the shelf - have to order them!) or if I can just use Satinwood (Dulux) or Eggshell (Dulex).
Paint is either water-based or oil-based, that's it. You can tell which is which by seeing what you have to wash the brushes in, either water or white spirit.

As for satin and eggshell, that merely refers to the texture of the finish.

My view is that water-based paints are not suitable for surfaces that get a lot of handling - I envisage them wearing off or going shiny.

I agree the wood is rather dark, but it does seem a pity to paint over real wood. How about painting the tiles white instead, and/or cranking up the lighting?

ali_kat

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32,032 posts

228 months

Saturday 22nd August 2009
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thumbup I'll look for those primers biggrin

I don't want to spray paint them - I've tried that before and I'm better with a brush wink

It does come in Endurance, but isn't that for walls not wood?

It's a rented house, so I don't want to spend too much by replacing the doors & fronts (plus it is so old I doubt they would fit wink)

wavey Dave - cheers - I'll pay them a visit biggrin

wavey Wings - our landlord is happy for us to make any improvements to the house we wish, so long as we do it properly - he won't do anything to improve it other than maintain the outside/garden.

wavey Simpo - Thanks for that biggrin You know how blonde I am wink I can't paint the tiles, there is too much 'crap' around them frown And the ciling is not suitable for doing stuff with the lighting, we've tried.

Wings

5,841 posts

222 months

Saturday 22nd August 2009
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If you were my tenant I would replace the door fronts, honestly.

I have the same problem at home, very dark wood kitchen units, so sympathise with you.

If you must, then you can always roll the paint on the units with a radiator size roller, and then use a good quality paint brush immediately afterwards.

I just wish you were in the Bristol area, since I have trade contacts for trade prices on decorating materials etc.

ali_kat

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32,032 posts

228 months

Saturday 22nd August 2009
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Wings said:
If you were my tenant I would replace the door fronts, honestly.

I have the same problem at home, very dark wood kitchen units, so sympathise with you.

If you must, then you can always roll the paint on the units with a radiator size roller, and then use a good quality paint brush immediately afterwards.

I just wish you were in the Bristol area, since I have trade contacts for trade prices on decorating materials etc.
If I were your tenant, I think you'd do it anyway wink

Funnily enough, that was the way I was planning on doing them - I only ever use good quality brushes and prep tools (I'm quite good at DIY wink)

I'm not that far away wink

UpTheIron

4,016 posts

275 months

Saturday 22nd August 2009
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ali_kat said:
our landlord is happy for us to make any improvements to the house we wish, so long as we do it properly
Have you asked specifically about painting the cupboards? Speaking as a landlord I would probably not want this done as I find it hard to believe an acceptable finish will be achieved.

Of course, less a scrupulous landlord might just let you do the work and then bill you for a set of kitchen doors + fitting when you move out...

cuneus

5,963 posts

249 months

Sunday 23rd August 2009
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Get a flat (or nearly flat) high solids oil based paint - anything shiny looks awful

Use a microfibre mini roller

Gives an amazing finish

ali_kat

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228 months

Sunday 23rd August 2009
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UpTheIron said:
ali_kat said:
our landlord is happy for us to make any improvements to the house we wish, so long as we do it properly
Have you asked specifically about painting the cupboards? Speaking as a landlord I would probably not want this done as I find it hard to believe an acceptable finish will be achieved.

Of course, less a scrupulous landlord might just let you do the work and then bill you for a set of kitchen doors + fitting when you move out...
yes They said it was fine biggrin

But true. I shall ensure I get it in writing before I start biggrin

ali_kat

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32,032 posts

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Sunday 23rd August 2009
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cuneus said:
Get a flat (or nearly flat) high solids oil based paint - anything shiny looks awful

Use a microfibre mini roller

Gives an amazing finish
Don't want shiny, do need easy clean wink

Shall be doing more investigating before I start biggrin

King Herald

23,501 posts

223 months

Monday 24th August 2009
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A hot rod friend of mine has actually sprayed the inserts in his kitchen doors a deep metalflake red, with the frame in black. It looks pretty bleddy good actually.

I'm wondering if my wife will let me loose on ours, so I can practise before painting my hot rod??? scratchchin

ali_kat

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32,032 posts

228 months

Thursday 27th August 2009
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woohoo

Got it in writing biggrin

I start the cleaning of the doors ready for preping tomorrow bounce

Wings

5,841 posts

222 months

Thursday 27th August 2009
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If by chance things do not go to plan, and you could/would change your colour scheme, in the next couple of weeks I will be removing a fairly new light grey/blue kitchen units. Subject of course do the doors being of the right size, you would be welcome to the doors FOC, delivery being courtesy of my daughter. Who incidentally is now looking for a one or two bed house to rent, so please if you hear of anything please let me know.

ali_kat

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228 months

Thursday 27th August 2009
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thumbup Thank you very much biggrin

Newey Property (who we use) have a few nice 1 & 2 bed houses/apartments & bungalows available locally at the moment.

Belvoir usually get nice places as well.

I'll keep my ears open.

ali_kat

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228 months

Thursday 27th August 2009
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King Herald said:
A hot rod friend of mine has actually sprayed the inserts in his kitchen doors a deep metalflake red, with the frame in black. It looks pretty bleddy good actually.

I'm wondering if my wife will let me loose on ours, so I can practise before painting my hot rod??? scratchchin
Sorry, I missed this paperbag

Sounds fantastic, in fact - we need pictures biggrin

I hope Queen Herald lets you do it biggrin

Goochie

5,681 posts

226 months

Thursday 27th August 2009
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I really cant understand why people in rented properties want to spend money doing up someone else's house!?

Simpo Two

87,030 posts

272 months

Thursday 27th August 2009
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It's only a bit of paint.

My tenant is going to redecorate the whole house - apparently!