how to get that 'quality' clunk noise
Discussion
Our house is two farm managers cottages that was converted into one by the previous owners...It was apparent that they did it correctly (steelwork etc) on the build but ran out of money for quality fixtures and fittings.
On reading through this section, I now feel the need to right these wrongs.
One of the major bug bears are the internal doors. They are thin pine 4 panel doors with very cheap 'brass' rim locks....
When closed,you really have to pull them hard to get them to close (ok, I know this is the fitting and can be tweaked) and they feel really inferior.
So, do I bite the bullet and replace all 6 internals for oak 4 panelled ones, new quality hinges, new quality rim locks in one go?
Would I need to also replace the frames as well to match the door quality. My way of thinking is that if the doors were bought cheap along with the frames then I'd be farting into the wind to replace one but not the other.....Would new frames make a difference as well?
I know its never going to be a show home like some of the superb builds currently doing the rounds on here but I would like to try and replicate the solid quality feel....
On reading through this section, I now feel the need to right these wrongs.
One of the major bug bears are the internal doors. They are thin pine 4 panel doors with very cheap 'brass' rim locks....
When closed,you really have to pull them hard to get them to close (ok, I know this is the fitting and can be tweaked) and they feel really inferior.
So, do I bite the bullet and replace all 6 internals for oak 4 panelled ones, new quality hinges, new quality rim locks in one go?
Would I need to also replace the frames as well to match the door quality. My way of thinking is that if the doors were bought cheap along with the frames then I'd be farting into the wind to replace one but not the other.....Would new frames make a difference as well?
I know its never going to be a show home like some of the superb builds currently doing the rounds on here but I would like to try and replicate the solid quality feel....
Edited by KevF on Thursday 13th August 14:16
The frame shouldn't really affect the 'feel' of the door assuming it has been securely installed and is square and plumb. It will more than likely be a softwood casing though so is unlikely to match your oak doors if you want it stripped (no issue obviously if its white).
B&Q have some lovely Oak veneer shaker style doors on offer at the moment a few of which I have hung myself. They are suitably weighty and when coupled with half decent furniture really look and feel the business for sensible money.
A good joiner can make a cheap door look and feel great, a bad joiner will do the opposite, no matter how much you spend on materials.
B&Q have some lovely Oak veneer shaker style doors on offer at the moment a few of which I have hung myself. They are suitably weighty and when coupled with half decent furniture really look and feel the business for sensible money.
A good joiner can make a cheap door look and feel great, a bad joiner will do the opposite, no matter how much you spend on materials.
Edited by B17NNS on Thursday 13th August 22:57
You will need:
Quality solid pine or oak door and frame sets. Installed with care to be plumb and true in all directions. An ill-fitted frame is always the reason for an ill-fitting door. There is no need to go for oak unless that is the look you're after. Dont get anything from b&q as its all (virtually without exception) absolute rubbish (the timber used to make their doorsets is usually not sufficiently dried before manufacture so they will warp). Ensure that the doorsets are kept in the house for several weeks before fitting otherwise they will need to be eased after 6 months.
Finally quality door furniture (say ingsol rand) with bb hinges will make for a smooth action on a heavy door. As with most things building, the care and attention when fitting is the absolute key. If it is even slightly out of plumb (in any direction) it will never be right.
All the best
Quality solid pine or oak door and frame sets. Installed with care to be plumb and true in all directions. An ill-fitted frame is always the reason for an ill-fitting door. There is no need to go for oak unless that is the look you're after. Dont get anything from b&q as its all (virtually without exception) absolute rubbish (the timber used to make their doorsets is usually not sufficiently dried before manufacture so they will warp). Ensure that the doorsets are kept in the house for several weeks before fitting otherwise they will need to be eased after 6 months.
Finally quality door furniture (say ingsol rand) with bb hinges will make for a smooth action on a heavy door. As with most things building, the care and attention when fitting is the absolute key. If it is even slightly out of plumb (in any direction) it will never be right.
All the best
King Herald said:
We have the pine panelled cheapie doors in our upstairs room, and when pushed closed the latch clicks loudly, and the door acts as a massive loudspeaker, and the C-aaa-LICK echoes throughout the house.
Especially when the mum in law does it......at 2am....
Especially when the mum in law does it......at 2am....
thats our problem....we've got the C-aaa_LICK but want the C-lll-unk...
Cheap pine doors and cheap catches......
Been looking and bugger me isnt there a lot of difference in price...I've found oak doors from £122 to £349......
I think with decent doors fitted by a decent joiner and good rimlocks we should be good to go...
http://www.jeld-wen.co.uk/?cmd=ranges.range&id...
http://www.jbkind.com/
The answer is a combination of all three. Good doors, quality ironmongery and a good carpenter.
http://www.jbkind.com/
The answer is a combination of all three. Good doors, quality ironmongery and a good carpenter.
KevF said:
King Herald said:
We have the pine panelled cheapie doors in our upstairs room, and when pushed closed the latch clicks loudly, and the door acts as a massive loudspeaker, and the C-aaa-LICK echoes throughout the house.
Especially when the mum in law does it......at 2am....
Especially when the mum in law does it......at 2am....
thats our problem....we've got the C-aaa_LICK but want the C-lll-unk...Cheap pine doors and cheap catches......
Been looking and bugger me isnt there a lot of difference in price...I've found oak doors from £122 to £349......
I think with decent doors fitted by a decent joiner and good rimlocks we should be good to go...
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