Pistonheads, sheds matter

[satans worm]

Looking for a 12 X 8 shed, it doesnt need to be top quality, half decent will surfice.
Any pointers that i should be looking for? Is over lap ok, seems alot cheaper, what are its drawbacks?
Any recomendations where to buy, price is important, needless to say, less is beter!
Thanks

Edited by satans worm on Sunday 9th August 21:21

[tank slapper]

I just helped my dad put up a Keter 11x8 shed, which seems pretty good. It is very easy to put together and being entirely plastic needs no maintenance. You just have to ensure the floor is completely level before you start.

Looks like this:



You didn't say what budget you were looking at, but it was £750 from Tesco direct, which was significantly cheaper than anywhere else he looked.

[satans worm]

whilst that does look god, I must admit to likeing the traditional wood shed rather than the plastic/metal shed, as good as they are.
Budget wise, really is as low as possible, lowest ive seen is this for £489

http://www.tigersheds.com/product_detail.asp?prod=...

[Simpo Two]

Well, just buy the cheapest one you can find. It will be crap but it will be cheap, which appears to be the main factor here.

[headcase]

there are no drawbacks to a cheap shed, they stop cats pissing on your lawnmower and thats about it

[satans worm]

Simpo Two said:

Well, just buy the cheapest one you can find. It will be crap but it will be cheap, which appears to be the main factor here.

No not at all, if you would like to actually read the post you will see I am asking what the difference between sheds are. And not just the different skin construction but if i should be looking out for anything else, say roof or frame thickness etc. (ie any pointers on buying a shed?)
I, like most people, dont like wasting money, looking on the web their are hundreds of sheds all at different prices, I am merely trying to ascertain who is charging a large mark up and who is selling a better product.
The example I gave was a starting point, the cheapest I could find, I was hoping someone may be able to tell why I shouldn't, or should buy that particular shed, after all if it is just the difference of looks and another few years fo life, I'll keep the extra few hundred quid others charge, if however it wont last 5 years without falling to pieces, then I will spend the extra.
Comments of 'it will be crap' without explaining exactly what will be crap about it are unhelpful and pointless.

Edited by satans worm on Monday 10th August 08:08

Edited by satans worm on Monday 10th August 08:09

[sneijder]

Now, I'm no graphics expert, this is the most god awful photoshop I have seen. I feel sea sick just looking at it.

Unfortunately, with regards to your proposed shed purchase I have nothing to offer you by way of advice. I leave you however with the image of a shed I admire.

[schmalex]

satans worm said:

Looking for a 12 X 8 shed, it doesnt need to be top quality, half decent will surfice.
Any pointers that i should be looking for? Is over lap ok, seems alot cheaper, what are its drawbacks?
Any recomendations where to buy, price is important, needless to say, less is beter!
Thanks

Edited by satans worm on Sunday 9th August 21:21

Where abouts are you? One of my neigbours near Newbury owns a timber yard & sells good quality 12 x 8 sheds for around the £300 mark

[Simpo Two]

satans worm said:

No not at all, if you would like to actually read the post you will see I am asking what the difference between sheds are.

Mm, but the word 'cheap' does appear a lot... Now you appear to want a higher specification shed for the price of the cheapest. Life doesn't work like that. Tongue and groove planking costs more than overlap (= fence panels), and tongue and groove flooring/ceiling costs more than OSB. A proper door that shuts neatly and stays flat costs more than a bit of fence panel with a strut on the back.

You can have a good shed, or a cheap shed, but not both. What you need to do is decide the level of specification you want, then look for the best deal at that level. And you can't deny that, all things being equal, the cheapest is very likely to be the most crap

Edited by Simpo Two on Monday 10th August 11:23

[mgtony]

Theses are the basics: A cheap shed will have a poor quality felt for the roof, which will perish in no time. The roof under the felt will be thin thinist of plywood which will sag and eventually leak. T&G will be stronger and I would say more weather proof due to less gaps.
You really need to go and see what you're buying, rather than an internet jobby. Or you could end up with a shed. Oh.

[Rollcage]

Pistonsheds?

[Shaolin]

It partly depends what the shed is being used to store and where it will be positioned.

Overlap is cheapest but is the least weatherproof, especially if exposed to wind and driving rain. You'll also get knots that will pop out at some point and some of the pieces of wood may peel up a little so you can see gaps between them.

Shiplap or similar is best, the planks that make the shed are tongue and grooved or at least rebated so they are held in place closely, the timber used will usually be better quality than overlap. There are no gaps for the wind and rain to get through.

Cheap sheds will be made of cheaper more warp-prone and knotty timber, but you don't need to go for the more expensive ones if it is just to be used for storage requiring occasional access. The more use it gets, walking around inside, the more wear and tear, the stronger the construction needs to be.

Metal and plastic ones look awful to my eye, especially in a garden, probably ok on an industrial estate, but need virtually no maintenance. Wooden ones will need an occasional staining for cosmetic reasons mainly, but it's the roof that will probably need attention first as the felt can get ripped and lift requirng replacement. Add laths to the roofing felt when you put the shed up to help and it will help it last longer. I have 2 wooden sheds with felt roofs, the felt needs replecing probably once every 5 years, mainly as they are under trees and at some point a small branch will fall, damage the felt causing it to lift and be ripped by the wind.

[tank slapper]

sneijder said:

Now, I'm no graphics expert, this is the most god awful photoshop I have seen. I feel sea sick just looking at it.

That is a rubbish photoshop, but it does show the shed accurately.

[russ_a]

Another vote for Tigersheds here. Just one point though, they offer a 15 day delivery service but this is 15 working days.

Edited by russ_a on Monday 10th August 12:30

[eps]

Shiplap as opposed to overlap looks and just seems better from a simple pov.. The only "issue" is that Tigersheds seem to (as may others) sell larger units which look like they are made up from smaller units, i.e. two sheds joined together, which is surely a recipe for disaster. It's a bit like the cheaper Pine furniture, it's made up from smaller parts which are churned out and joined together.. It's never going to last as long as a "proper" piece of furniture. As someone mentioned, go and see what you are buying or at least similar examples, before purchasing. Otherwise you may well be disappointed.

ETA : Littlewoods seem to have a sale on sheds at the moment.. http://www.littlewoods.com/rf/navigation/product.d...

Edited by eps on Monday 10th August 12:44

[Xenocide]

tank slapper said:

sneijder said:

Now, I'm no graphics expert, this is the most god awful photoshop I have seen. I feel sea sick just looking at it.

That is a rubbish photoshop, but it does show the shed accurately.

Where a helemet is the same size as a reel of hose? Really?

[tank slapper]

Xenocide said:

tank slapper said:

sneijder said:

Now, I'm no graphics expert, this is the most god awful photoshop I have seen. I feel sea sick just looking at it.

That is a rubbish photoshop, but it does show the shed accurately.

Where a helemet is the same size as a reel of hose? Really?

Not sure what your point is. You could easily fit what they show in that picture in it.

[Piersman2]

Xenocide said:

tank slapper said:

sneijder said:

Now, I'm no graphics expert, this is the most god awful photoshop I have seen. I feel sea sick just looking at it.

That is a rubbish photoshop, but it does show the shed accurately.

Where a helemet is the same size as a reel of hose? Really?

And what's holding the skateboard(?) on the wall?
And surely the quad is where the bottom of the ladders would be?

The more I look, the worse it gets, it's like one of those spot the mistakes pictures!

[satans worm]

Thanks for your responses, especially those detailing the shiplap/ feather shell details
I have come to the conclusion this one meets my needs http://www.tigersheds.com/product_detail.asp?prod=...
15mm loglap at just £680. cheapest loglap I've seen, but still looks sturdy and weatherproof.

[satans worm]

schmalex said:

satans worm said:

Looking for a 12 X 8 shed, it doesnt need to be top quality, half decent will surfice.
Any pointers that i should be looking for? Is over lap ok, seems alot cheaper, what are its drawbacks?
Any recomendations where to buy, price is important, needless to say, less is beter!
Thanks

Edited by satans worm on Sunday 9th August 21:21

Where abouts are you? One of my neigbours near Newbury owns a timber yard & sells good quality 12 x 8 sheds for around the £300 mark

Thanks for the offer, unfortunatly I live in Suffolk, which is a bit of a trek!!