Posh paint

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raf_gti

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4,101 posts

213 months

Saturday 8th August 2009
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Is it worth it?

We've just decorated our toilet's using standard Dulux mix paint and the results are decent enough, it was applied with a paint pad on that horrible 'new build' wall and whilst it wasn't the easiest to get an even coat is looking ok and the colour is what we expected.

For the hallway and living room I want a far higher quality finish, a paint with a real tactile quality to it as well as a real depth to it, I've been looking at Farrow & Ball amongst others.

Apart from liking a colour that the company does is it worth extra money over regular paint? I don't mind paying for quality but only if it is genuine and not paying for the name.

V8mate

45,899 posts

196 months

Saturday 8th August 2009
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Farrow & Ball make genuinely good paint. Beware some of the 'luxury' paints offered by the DIY chains though; big premium with less of a return.

Plotloss

67,280 posts

277 months

Saturday 8th August 2009
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V8mate said:
Farrow & Ball make genuinely good paint. Beware some of the 'luxury' paints offered by the DIY chains though; big premium with less of a return.
Farrow and Ball paint is so overpriced its not funny and you wont hear any decorator say a good word about it.

If you must have Farrow and Ball colours then get Johnstones or Dulux to convert the Farrow and Ball codes.

raf_gti

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213 months

Saturday 8th August 2009
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Two rather different opinions there!

I'm lucky in so far that my Mil can get most paints at cost price so making the expensive stuff that bit more bearable.

Edited by raf_gti on Saturday 8th August 18:22

robinhood21

30,844 posts

239 months

Saturday 8th August 2009
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Paint-pads will not exactly give you a good finish when using emulsion on ceilings and walls. Best to use a roller.
Oh, and + another for overpriced 'Posh paint'.

andy43

10,551 posts

261 months

Saturday 8th August 2009
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I'd say really going to town on the prep work, getting it all perfect first, is where the depth and stuff comes from, rather than one coat of paint. Think like a custom car sprayer and do a couple of white 'under' coats first. Then decent shortpile roller, nice and slow. Wouldn't bother with posh paint either - my worst painting experience was with expensive paint that went on like p!ss. Stick with the branded cheap stuff.

Eggle

3,589 posts

243 months

Saturday 8th August 2009
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I'm with Plotty on this. My wife is a decorator and hates the stuff. Bad covering, fades in any light and inconstant.
She gets a Dulux mix of the same colour and it is far better.

Coco H

4,237 posts

244 months

Saturday 8th August 2009
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Eggle said:
I'm with Plotty on this. My wife is a decorator and hates the stuff. Bad covering, fades in any light and inconstant.
She gets a Dulux mix of the same colour and it is far better.
Yup same for my decorator - been in the trade for 40 years now.

Though I would use F&B on wood.

bga

8,134 posts

258 months

Saturday 8th August 2009
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Plotloss said:
Farrow and Ball paint is so overpriced its not funny and you wont hear any decorator say a good word about it.
My mum's hubby & the decorators I had in recently say plenty of good things about F&B when used for the right job

Both have been in the trade long enough to figure out what works for them.

allegro

1,177 posts

211 months

Saturday 8th August 2009
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F&B colours cannot be matched by modern chemical based colours!
They use a totally different process to produce them and thats why they have a really nice subtlety about them. Most decorators dont like the stuff out of sheer lazyness as they dont want to do the required preparation.

Paul Drawmer

4,960 posts

274 months

Sunday 9th August 2009
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allegro said:
F&B colours cannot be matched by modern chemical based colours!...
I'm surprised to read this.
Can you back that up with other than anecdotal evidence?

satans worm

2,412 posts

224 months

Sunday 9th August 2009
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We have painted our place in F&B 'estate' emulsion and it gives a far 'deeper matt' finish than any other paint we have used in the past, and if your shallow like me it gives you a nice feeling every time you think about the fact you have F & B on your walls (horribly superfical i know, but fk it, you are what you are smile ).

However

Dont use the 'modern' emulsion stuff, we have painted our kitchen and bathroom in it, and it doesnt give a consistent finish, very patchy and so doesnt look good at all. Avoid.

Paul Drawmer

4,960 posts

274 months

Sunday 9th August 2009
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I've never used F & B, so I don't know what they are like.

I have used a wide variety of different types of 'modern emulsion' over the years. I have found that it is well worth paying for quality paint. I've used all sorts of stuff from DIY sheds and in general I've found that they cover less well, and are less dense matt finishes than Dulux. For the last few years, I've only used the big fluffy dog.

This all started a few years ago when I was using a professional decorator to do some work. On the matter of colours, we were looking at the F&B stuff. Basically, he said he'd only use Dulux, I could buy it if I wanted, he wasn't making on the paint, he just didn't want to use F&B. We got the colours made up at the Dulux Decorator Centre in Banbury.

Now that's only one guy's opinion, so I really wonder if there is a difference in quality of finish and ease of use.

DB7 pilot

513 posts

188 months

Monday 10th August 2009
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I have a company that paints huge expanses of museum walls mostly Dulux Colour Dimensions mix, or, if the building's listed, we have specific paints mixed or we're told where we can get them.

We've used F & B's on a few jobs over the years and we've found that on small expanses it's o.k. not much between that and the generic modern paints, but if you're putting it in a hallway or somewhere where people will inadvertently brush passed the wall, the F & B paint starts to get a powder white residue and the scuffs don't come out unless the walls repainted. I was told: "It's the chalk base they use that comes through." Can't vouch for that, but we end up repainting more 'high end, hand made' paint than any other.

If it were I, Dulux Col. Dim, paint every time.

Mark.

WWESTY

2,690 posts

245 months

Monday 10th August 2009
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F&B has given us good results and our decorators have given it thumbs up....but it never goes as far as "ordinary" stuff.

We have just used some Fired Earth matt emulsion in our hall and the colour is great but its a nightmare for showing marks/scuffs etc......

Twerlie

1,682 posts

274 months

Monday 10th August 2009
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F&B is brilliant if you put in the preparation time!

raf_gti

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4,101 posts

213 months

Monday 10th August 2009
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From the responses so far it looks like a big thumbs down for the posh stuff.

As it is a new build we are decorating what is the best way to prep for re-decorating?

For the hallway I'm after a durable finish as well as a quality one.

V8mate

45,899 posts

196 months

Monday 10th August 2009
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raf_gti said:
From the responses so far it looks like a big thumbs down for the posh stuff.

As it is a new build we are decorating what is the best way to prep for re-decorating?

For the hallway I'm after a durable finish as well as a quality one.
It's for a 'new build'? Why didn't you say so? You've got people here talking about painting museums and my experience was painting English Heritage properties.

If it's just a plasterboard box, Wickes trade emulsion is fine hehe

robinhood21

30,844 posts

239 months

Monday 10th August 2009
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If it is 'New build' and is bare plaster; best to use a 'contract emulsion' as this will let any moisture trapped in the walls/plaster breath through the emulsion.