I want a log burner but dont want the expense of flue

[plumAJP]

i have a gas fire plumbed upto a chimney. i want to remove the fire and expose the fire place and brickwork.

but how to i tell if i have a insualted flue, normal flue, or whatever else could be in there. and whether it will be suitable for a multi fuel stove (only for heat and not for water heating purposes)

its a straight up chimney, no bends and no other fireplaces connecting to it.

house was built in the 50's not sure what year.


any tips, i have done a bit of background reading but i know what types of flue are available for stoves and the problems over tar build up and flue fires, etc.

[motco]

You might find some information here:- Woodburning installation

[fatboy b]

Pretty certain you're goingto need a lined chimney. They're about £1K for a two story house + fitting.

[plumAJP]

interesting as the above link suggests you only need to line if your exisiting is leaking.

[Iain328]

plumAJP said:

interesting as the above link suggests you only need to line if your exisiting is leaking.

My brother is having a log burner put in to replace an existing old coal burning thing. He was initially told he needed a liner & then the chimney sweep told him that was "bks" . If you have a perfectly good chimney you can use it as is. The stove manufacture then confirmed the same.

[plumAJP]

Taken from the above link :

DO I NEED TO LINE MY CHIMNEY TO THE TOP?

If your chimney is in good order with no leaks i.e. no leaks into your upstairs rooms, your attic or your neighbours` house, in the case of a semi, then the answer is NO you do not need to line your chimney nor is there anything in Building Regulations which states that you must line. The rule here is NO LEAK NO LINER.

MY CHIMNEY DOES NOT LEAK BUT I HAVE BEEN TO A SHOP AND THEY TELL ME I MUST LINE IT. IS THIS CORRECT?

In a shop or on other websites you are dealing with sales people. Here, at Wood burning Stoves Limited.com , you are dealing with HETAS qualified solid fuel engineers. The sales people in these shops are attempting to pressure you by mis-selling a chimney lining kit. Selling you something you do not require in order to obtain a higher commission percentage on the sale.

WHEN MUST I LINE MY CHIMNEY?

You must line your chimney, chimney top to stove, if it leaks into your house, attic or your neighbours` house. We can supply full lining kits for this purpose.

Click here to see our range of liners http://www.woodburningstoveslimited.com/index.php?...


I HAVE LINING IN MY CHIMNEY WHICH WAS USED FOR A GAS FIRE CAN I USE IT FOR MY WOODBURNER?

The usual rule for any chimney lining or alteration which has been done to run a gas fire is "ALL OUT". The gas liner is not made from a metal strong enough to cope with the heat from wood burning stoves and multi fuel stoves and will start to disintegrate releasing noxious fumes. You will only need to replace this gas liner with a liner suitable for Wood burning Stoves or Multi Fuel Stoves if your chimney is leaking. It may be that you will find your brick chimney is in good order however, if you find your chimney leaks we can supply a full lining kit.

I HAVE NO CHIMNEY CAN I STILL INSTALL A WOOD BURNING STOVE OR MULTI FUEL STOVE?

The answer to this is YES! But you may have to apply for planning permission either in advance or retrospectively. We can design and supply a prefabricated chimney for you up to Building Control Standards. This is a bespoke kit incorporating Twin Wall Insulated piping.

[fatboy b]

The residue from log-burners is a much higher temperature than an open fire (500'C). It's also acidic. The two combined will eat away at the mortar in older houses - pre 1980-ish. Our house is 1982, but the chimney had been previuosly bodged by another wood-burner install which left the chimney open to the cavity wall - nice.

[Rude]

We bought a house which had a DIY installation of a log burner. We "upgraded" it with a chinmey liner and the difference is incredible. The liner, being metal, heats up much faster than the old chimney and as a result draws the smoke up the chimney really well. The old, pre liner days were a nightmare to get the fire to light and thereafter to ensure that the room didn't fill with smoke whenever you opened the door of the woodburner. £1k well spent IMO
Rude

[fatboy b]

Rude said:

We bought a house which had a DIY installation of a log burner. We "upgraded" it with a chinmey liner and the difference is incredible. The liner, being metal, heats up much faster than the old chimney and as a result draws the smoke up the chimney really well. The old, pre liner days were a nightmare to get the fire to light and thereafter to ensure that the room didn't fill with smoke whenever you opened the door of the woodburner. £1k well spent IMO
Rude

we had much the same problem with it drawing before the liner install.

[benmc]

Cant say I know the answer but we have never had any form of stove or fire before.

We have just had a Jotul F400 installed in an existing Chimney and had the Flu lined. Cost around 2.5k all in.

All I can say is it is excellent. Real fires are the way to go. Well worth the cost in my book.

Ben

[Brown and Boris]

The guy who installed our burner used a smoke bomb hung up the chimey to check for leaks before and after installation, but we already had some sort of cement liner. In fact the liners are a bit of a pain elsewhere because we recently opened up the old fireplace to find the builder had put liners in them all and the house fills with smoke if you try to light an open fire (thus we have the multi-fuel). Old chimney: open fire if you can (and less costly to install)

[plumAJP]

what does an open fire look like?

just a metal cradle that you put logs and coal on etc?