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anonymous-user

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61 months

Thursday 16th July 2009
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HiRich

3,337 posts

269 months

Thursday 16th July 2009
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Allow 2 days to dig out and prep the old fence (IF you are both builder-fit. Which you're not)
Allow a day for disposal, and buying the right kit.

Allow an hour per 8' section to:
  • Dig hole
  • Cut post to length
  • Pre-paint post & panel
  • Install post & set accurately
  • Install panel
c.25 panels = 25 working hours
That also assumes she can carry a 6' high panel down the garden, and hold it upright accurately for five minutes unassisted.

So six full 8-hour days, and that's presuming you work with military efficiency, know what you're doing, don't put your back in spasm, and she doesn't leave to move back in with her parents halfway through after yet another argument. Two of the above will happen, two will not.

With the right help (two blokes, who know how to take orders and work unassisted), I might just tackle it. But probably not. And I have some idea what I'm doing, you (by your own admission) don't. For the two of you, forget it.

cyb

184 posts

193 months

Thursday 16th July 2009
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I'd wait for the snow to melt too.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

256 months

Thursday 16th July 2009
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200 ft??

rofl

I don't mind grafting on the w/e but I'd draw the line at erecting the best part of 35 posts on my own

get her to lift one on her own, she'll change her tune pretty quickly

Edited by sleep envy on Thursday 16th July 17:33

GreenDog

2,261 posts

199 months

Thursday 16th July 2009
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HiRich said:
Allow 2 days to dig out and prep the old fence (IF you are both builder-fit. Which you're not)
Allow a day for disposal, and buying the right kit.

Allow an hour per 8' section to:
  • Dig hole
  • Cut post to length
  • Pre-paint post & panel
  • Install post & set accurately
  • Install panel
c.25 panels = 25 working hours
That also assumes she can carry a 6' high panel down the garden, and hold it upright accurately for five minutes unassisted.

So six full 8-hour days, and that's presuming you work with military efficiency, know what you're doing, don't put your back in spasm, and she doesn't leave to move back in with her parents halfway through after yet another argument. Two of the above will happen, two will not.

With the right help (two blokes, who know how to take orders and work unassisted), I might just tackle it. But probably not. And I have some idea what I'm doing, you (by your own admission) don't. For the two of you, forget it.
What he said, and it'll look st compared to how the pro's will do it.

R.I.F.

8,786 posts

202 months

Thursday 16th July 2009
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HiRich said:
forget it.
This is all you needed to put. smile

Romanymagic

3,298 posts

226 months

Thursday 16th July 2009
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We had just under 100ft of fencing done and it took 3 guys a whole day to complete (and they worked for a fencing specialist).

eps

6,436 posts

276 months

Thursday 16th July 2009
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anonymous said:
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Freecycle is your friend... to get rid of stuff that no one else would touch with a barge pole.. Be prepared for interesting people to come round and people to say they will definitely come round and then not bother...

eps

6,436 posts

276 months

Thursday 16th July 2009
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anonymous said:
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Fencing can be done.. but it's a hard job! I took down and then re-erected a 3 bar fence, but it was a tough job done with my father in law. Neither of us could have done it on our own and I certainly wouldn't have finished it with the wife helping.. No disrespect to her, but it is manual labour and everything is just heavy and just when you think you've got it mostly done you will dig a hole in clay soil, tree roots or rock or something else.. 200ft is a lot. I think we did about 35-45 metres.. That was tough enough.

Alternatively you could cave in and then watch her struggle... Make your point and then get someone in to do the job! wink

CatherineJ

9,586 posts

250 months

Thursday 16th July 2009
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Yes Freecycle is brilliant. I dug up 1 ton of plum slate and within 12 hours the slate had completely gone. I've then dug another a ton out and the same people are coming again this weekend.

D14 AYS

3,696 posts

217 months

Thursday 16th July 2009
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anonymous said:
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If I were you I would pull his arm clean out of its socket mate, is that price inc materials?

eps

6,436 posts

276 months

Thursday 16th July 2009
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D14 AYS said:
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If I were you I would pull his arm clean out of its socket mate, is that price inc materials?
+1 Have you seen any previous work?

Mojooo

13,020 posts

187 months

Thursday 16th July 2009
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I was quoted £800 for 7 panels and posts and gravel boards down south and that was for approx 35 foot or so I think.

In the end I bought the materials myself which cost £324 I think - so that quote is very very cheap. And my materials were the cheapest of the cheap.

Doing mine was an absolute NIGHTMARE because I have bumpy ground to deal with - took the best part of 2 weeks doing a couple of hours after work each night

It is rewarding, but if you can afford it go pro.

ncs

3,972 posts

289 months

Thursday 16th July 2009
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It does sound like a very good quote, & if it does include materials I'd bite his arm off!

The materials alone would be about £25 per section.

Nicknerd

Dan_1981

17,538 posts

206 months

Thursday 16th July 2009
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The fence on the left doesn't look in the best of condition either - may need doing again soon.

Or at least a good coat of some sort of weather protect.

D14 AYS

3,696 posts

217 months

Thursday 16th July 2009
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Hi James,

I wouldn't think you would get any change out of 2300 mate, Its a long old run of fence, also I would doubt they will take away the old fence/rubbish for that price.

TheEnd

15,370 posts

195 months

Thursday 16th July 2009
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Well, the fencing looks sturdy, but i can see what you mean about a lack of privacy.

touching cloth

11,706 posts

246 months

Thursday 16th July 2009
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I can't work the maths, £45+vat per panel for 24 panels is already £1242 so have you added £8 for the remaining 50ft (bearing in mind it's a third again). For 200ft it will 34 panels (assuming 6ft'ers) so £1760ish. TBH if it's £45 per panel fitted and includes the materials it sounds way too cheap, either that or he is using the pikeiest panels in the world (on top of gravel boards, posts, concrete) - the slats will warp and the panels will fall to pieces in short order. If it's £45+vat labour only of course, then the whole job just got a lot more expensive by the time you add the materials.

VxDuncan

2,850 posts

241 months

Thursday 16th July 2009
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I did the 12 panels in my garden with a friend over a weekend and a couple of extra evenings on my own, though a fair amount of that was removing a couple of old posts. As said, check the quality of the panels. Bought mine over the t'internet from a local builders merchant. God they are awful, so "green" the sap was practically dripping out of them. I was going for utility rather than style - concrete posts, gravel boards and basic panels. About £40/panel inc. cement mix.

Have you considered offering yourself as a labourer? At the very least I would offer my services to treat both sides of the panel, and basic help with moving materials etc. Doing more would help with the learning also.

You could do it yourself really, very easy if you are careful with the string line, sprirt level and measuring stick (to get the depth right). Worst bit is getting the old posts out (stagger the holes from the old ones if possible).

SteveTusc

143 posts

202 months

Thursday 16th July 2009
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I think the worst part of that job would be the change in levels. Getting the post depth right while keeping a consistent step will be a pain to do. I'd get someone in if it was me!

Edited by SteveTusc on Thursday 16th July 21:14