Skip or grab bags?

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Mojooo

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12,973 posts

186 months

Wednesday 27th May 2009
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Someone help me work out the most cost effective solution to my problem.

I can hire out a 6 yard 'builders' skip for £175

I can get a 'grab bags' (like the small hippo bags) - collected and delivered for £60 for 2 bags. A single bag is £40.




Now my garden has A LOT of soil and some rubble I need to get rid of.

Do anyone know how many of these grab bags I would have to fill up and use before I had reached the same amount for the skip? Obviously I can get 6 of the grab bags for the price on one skip

The grab bags have much more flexibility, the only downside I see is a couple of items would need to be broken down to fit into the bags but the majority of stuff is soil.

Any clues?

robinhood21

30,830 posts

238 months

Wednesday 27th May 2009
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You mention soil. Would this be top-soil? If so, would imagine it could be sold, or at least given away free.

CatherineJ

9,586 posts

249 months

Wednesday 27th May 2009
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I'm going down the Hippo Bag route this weekend. I'm giving the front Garden a makeover. I am thinking about getting the 1.5 ton Hippo Bag,

Mojooo

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186 months

Wednesday 27th May 2009
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CatherineJ said:
I'm going down the Hippo Bag route this weekend. I'm giving the front Garden a makeover. I am thinking about getting the 1.5 ton Hippo Bag,
the branded hoppobags are way more expensive than non branded versions, as i foudn out today!

CatherineJ

9,586 posts

249 months

Wednesday 27th May 2009
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Problem is we don't have anyone local that picks up grab bags.

mrmaggit

10,146 posts

254 months

Thursday 28th May 2009
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As a rule of thumb, the smaller the unit, the more expensive it will be. If you have soil or solid (bricks and blocks) waste, go for a skip for these items on their own, and make sure you let the skip people know it will be "inert". This one will go straight to their re-cycle plant, and will cost you less. Trees, roots, old pallets, plastics, glass etc go in a different skip, this will cost more as is standard stuff and needs to be sorted. If there is ANYTHING other than soil or hardcore in the inert skip, they will charge you as standard, so be warned! Discuss this with your skip people BEFORE you order the skip, not after.

Unfortunately, the bulk bags are not yet developed to be able to have "inert" and normal, it's all treated as normal waste. Don't forget to fill the bag where a crane lorry can reach it.

barney123

494 posts

217 months

Thursday 28th May 2009
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Mojooo said:
Someone help me work out the most cost effective solution to my problem.

I can hire out a 6 yard 'builders' skip for £175

I can get a 'grab bags' (like the small hippo bags) - collected and delivered for £60 for 2 bags. A single bag is £40.




Now my garden has A LOT of soil and some rubble I need to get rid of.

Do anyone know how many of these grab bags I would have to fill up and use before I had reached the same amount for the skip? Obviously I can get 6 of the grab bags for the price on one skip

The grab bags have much more flexibility, the only downside I see is a couple of items would need to be broken down to fit into the bags but the majority of stuff is soil.

Any clues?
Dont underestimate how many skips you will need - especially if it is compacted - those skips fill up in no time.

I have just filled 15 of them over the last few weekends - we though we would need about 7-8 frown


Autonotiv

2,673 posts

230 months

Thursday 28th May 2009
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how much stuff do you need to get rid of?

shirt

23,214 posts

207 months

Thursday 28th May 2009
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cheapest solution = rubble sacks and hire a van. area dependent though, its only £60 to hire a luton with a tail-lift for the weekend oop norf.

Mojooo

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186 months

Thursday 28th May 2009
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shirt said:
cheapest solution = rubble sacks and hire a van. area dependent though, its only £60 to hire a luton with a tail-lift for the weekend oop norf.
sounds like too much hassle loading them all on and finding somewhere to take them etc that is without even hiring the van etc

I have ordered a 6 yarder for tomorrow, if i have any left over then i will use the bags.

Autonotiv

2,673 posts

230 months

Thursday 28th May 2009
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Other options would have been;

Grab lorry £200+
15 yard roll on roll off.

Hoggey

12 posts

186 months

Friday 29th May 2009
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Mojoo

I agree with Autonotiv, I have found that the grab lorry is more economical or roll on/off; previous replies are correct that compacted soil bulks up by about a 3rd when digging out.Bear in mind that a 6 yd skip will probably take a little more, the companies always like a level load in their skips-so you might need another container to finish! Its nice to sort the bags to various materials, but my experience is that the companies are not really interested as long as there is no toxic material and charge just the same: they say due to the landfil tax. Happy digging

Hoggey

Mx_Stu

819 posts

229 months

Friday 29th May 2009
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Mojooo said:
Someone help me work out the most cost effective solution to my problem.

I can hire out a 6 yard 'builders' skip for £175
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This seems expensive.

I recently hired an 8 yard builders skip (with door) for about £100 to take soil from my garden.

Have you told them its soil going in the skip? If they assume that its general waste its massively more expensive due to the costs of disposing of it.

Mojooo

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12,973 posts

186 months

Friday 29th May 2009
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just got home and it is here, bigger than i imagined!

Only 2 companies quoted me under 180. the majority were closer to 190-200. The council charge £208. Some did ask me what I was putting in and when I said soil it didn't seem to affect the price.

Hopefully this will do the majority of what I want!


Mojooo

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12,973 posts

186 months

Friday 29th May 2009
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dang.. just having a break from putting all my stuff in it. back is killing me.

i think in my mind i had a point where i thought if i get this much in then i will be satisfied - i think the skip will exceed that point. i will prob need more rubbish removal later but i will do that via grab bags i think.

i am guessing the load should not stick out over the sides of the skip? even in the middle?