property in France

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David87M3

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1,445 posts

240 months

Friday 22nd May 2009
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Hi,
Has anyone here ever refurbed a property in France? If so what was your experience like? I fancy doing this not just for money but for use by family and then eventually sell on

Mods please move this if you feel I have posted in the wrong place.

Thanks

sleep envy

62,260 posts

255 months

Friday 22nd May 2009
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where abouts?

my mate who owns his own contracting refurb company has just bought a chateux and is currently doing some work out there

dougc

8,240 posts

271 months

Friday 22nd May 2009
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My parents are coming to the end of a 3 year project on a place on the North coast of Brittany. A house with ajoining outbuilding and what used to be a barn surrounding a central courtyard. The house was inhabited when they bought it but required re-decoration throughout including a new kitchen. The barn has been converted into usable space with a bar/sitting room downstairs and (what will become) a workshop upstairs. The outbuildings which look like they were once part of a cow byre now house a utility room and storage space as well as undercover seating. The courtyard is now a garden rather than a patch or mud and concrete.

Most of the work in the main house was done by the family - I took a couple of working holidays out there to help build the kitchen and furniture and turn the loft into 2 more bedrooms. The barn conversion was a slightly more complicated affair involving some sureing up, a new floor and joists for a mezzanine floor as well as new windows. The planning process was long but not particularly painful. Perhaps it was because we were rescuing it from dereliction and generally improving its appearance, who knows. Perhaps we were just lucky!?

The building work was undertaken by a local builder without too much hassle, aside from poor timekeeping and time overruns which in all honesty were expected anyway. When they first moved in, the neighbours introduced my folks to a local chap who is very proficient in general handywork (though not building, hence the local builder doing the heavy stuff) who was very helpful and has become a family friend over the course of the job.

Puggit

48,762 posts

254 months

Friday 22nd May 2009
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Shouldn't this have moved to the France forum? rolleyes

Anyway - ChateauCharly (Jason Park) is your man. He did it on Channel 4!

We have renovated some of our house - see my profile for pics.

Pros: DIY is much cheaper in France. Best large chain is Brico Depot (warehouse style, like B&Q in the old days). Leroy Merlin is the equivalent of B&Q now.
Our builder converted a 5x5m loft in to a bedroom (the one with twin beds on our site) and rennovated a bathroom for €10k.

Cons: French bureaucracy!
Language...

Make sure you make friends with the mayor first, and keep him up to date. We were lucky that our next door neighbour is his cousin!

David87M3

Original Poster:

1,445 posts

240 months

Friday 22nd May 2009
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Puggit said:
Shouldn't this have moved to the France forum? rolleyes

Anyway - ChateauCharly (Jason Park) is your man. He did it on Channel 4!

We have renovated some of our house - see my profile for pics.

Pros: DIY is much cheaper in France. Best large chain is Brico Depot (warehouse style, like B&Q in the old days). Leroy Merlin is the equivalent of B&Q now.
Our builder converted a 5x5m loft in to a bedroom (the one with twin beds on our site) and rennovated a bathroom for €10k.

Cons: French bureaucracy!
Language...

Make sure you make friends with the mayor first, and keep him up to date. We were lucky that our next door neighbour is his cousin!
Hi, the reason I put it in the other forum was becasue it would get viewed more! I didnt even know there was a France forum. Thanks for your help. the property is in Normandy if I get it.
Cheers

Puggit

48,762 posts

254 months

Friday 22nd May 2009
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I can recommend a Brittany based surveyor if you require - he'll cover Normandy too thumbup

The French don't use surveyors, they bring a builder round to quote while they are looking at the house wobble

Edited by Puggit on Friday 22 May 18:38

David87M3

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1,445 posts

240 months

Friday 22nd May 2009
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Puggit said:
I can recommend a Brittany based surveyor if you require - he'll cover Normandy too thumbup

The French don't use surveyors, they bring a builder round to quote while they are looking at the house wobble

Edited by Puggit on Friday 22 May 18:38
cheers. Im hoping to get a few family members involved so we can have a holiday home and then rent out when we dont require use.

Many thanks


Dave

Puggit

48,762 posts

254 months

Friday 22nd May 2009
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David87M3 said:
Puggit said:
I can recommend a Brittany based surveyor if you require - he'll cover Normandy too thumbup

The French don't use surveyors, they bring a builder round to quote while they are looking at the house wobble

Edited by Puggit on Friday 22 May 18:38
cheers. Im hoping to get a few family members involved so we can have a holiday home and then rent out when we dont require use.

Many thanks


Dave
More advice - but on tax. French tax is a nightmare. Tried to do it ourselves and have given up and will pay a bilingual accountant.

Unfortunately you get taxed in both countries. If you end up paying 25% tax on your profit in France, you owe Darling the extra 15% mad