Moving/Burying Electicity pylons & cables - feasible?

Moving/Burying Electicity pylons & cables - feasible?

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prand

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6,002 posts

202 months

Tuesday 12th May 2009
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Hi All, I've seen what could be the ultimate project house. A old farmhouse with 20 acres of paddock/farm land, plenty of outbuildings and 5 miles from the sea.

The problem is that there are some serious electicity pylons running through the land, spoiling the view and more more seriously being a potential health hazard.

Would it be in any way viable to have them moved or buried, or is this just one of those things that just can't be done - like moving a river or motorway?

WWESTY

2,690 posts

244 months

Tuesday 12th May 2009
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It can definitely be done...for a price!! You need to speak to local power company. Its likely to be 10's of £'000s though....mate of mine is a surveyor for Western Power and usually handles stuff like this.

john_p

7,073 posts

256 months

Tuesday 12th May 2009
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What length of cable would need to be buried, do you estimate?

I reckon 100's of £k, but I'm no expert wink

prand

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202 months

Tuesday 12th May 2009
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looking at the map here I'd say I'm looking at a 6-700m stretch between three pylons. I could imagine this to be prohibitively expensive, although this may be a reason why the property has come into range, so migth be do-able in a few years.

The cables run to within 50-70 metres from the farmhouse. Beyond the buzzing and spoling the viewm would this pose a serious threat to life?

WWESTY

2,690 posts

244 months

Tuesday 12th May 2009
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prand said:
looking at the map here I'd say I'm looking at a 6-700m stretch between three pylons. I could imagine this to be prohibitively expensive, although this may be a reason why the property has come into range, so migth be do-able in a few years.

The cables run to within 50-70 metres from the farmhouse. Beyond the buzzing and spoling the viewm would this pose a serious threat to life?
Last bit I would say no, otherwise would have been done before...

First bit......6-700m would certainly be expensive!! I can enquire a ball park figure if you like???!!

prand

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Tuesday 12th May 2009
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It's a big view! Although looking again, it looks like you could shorten that to 350-400m as that's the distance between two pylons that run closest to the house. Just for clarity, these are the National Grid looking big buggers with 6 (edit, not 4) thick cables and one along the top - not your local attached to wooden poles type affairs.

If you could find out ballpark figures that would be great thumbup , I'm expecting your mate to laugh and say probably cost much more than the place is worth, but there's no harm in dreaming!

Edit for accuracy on pylons

Edited by prand on Tuesday 12th May 16:06

WWESTY

2,690 posts

244 months

Tuesday 12th May 2009
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See what I can do! wink

prand

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6,002 posts

202 months

Tuesday 12th May 2009
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Many thanks!

Simpo Two

86,730 posts

271 months

Tuesday 12th May 2009
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Grow clematis up them?

Chrisgr31

13,672 posts

261 months

Tuesday 12th May 2009
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I wonder if you could reduce the cost (and I know we don't know what it is yet) by hiring a digger and digging the trench yourself? So all the National Grid need to do is lay the cables in it and connect at each end?


Driller

8,310 posts

284 months

Tuesday 12th May 2009
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prand said:
Beyond the buzzing and spoling the viewm would this pose a serious threat to life?
Can you say Leukaemia?

Simpo Two

86,730 posts

271 months

Tuesday 12th May 2009
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Driller said:
Can you say Leukaemia?
Statistically proven, or media paranoia in absence of actual knowledge?

(Nobody seems to mind having mobiles strapped to their heads pumping microwave radiation into their brains from 0.5" range)

Deva Link

26,934 posts

251 months

Tuesday 12th May 2009
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Driller said:
prand said:
Beyond the buzzing and spoling the viewm would this pose a serious threat to life?
Can you say Leukaemia?
Your fluorescent lights would glow without being turned on. hehe

The cost to bury hundreds of metres of the kind of power cables you're talking about - think about the connection and isolation kit that would be needed to make the transition from overhead to underground - would surely be immense. Per mile it might not be tooo bad but as a one off job for half a mile, if it really is proper high tension stuff, I wouldn't be surprised if it would cost £500k, maybe even more.


By the way, whatever you do if you need to borrow money against the property, or might ever want to sell on, then you need to seriously check this out. I saw a TV program about this issue affecting house prices and they got building society surveyors in to value houses affected and most said it wasn't their lenders policy to lend in such situations and wouldn't even offer a valuation.

Edited by Deva Link on Tuesday 12th May 22:49

eldar

22,497 posts

202 months

Tuesday 12th May 2009
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Driller said:
prand said:
Beyond the buzzing and spoling the viewm would this pose a serious threat to life?
Can you say Leukaemia?
Nothing a tinfoil hat can't prevent...

Sam_68

9,939 posts

251 months

Tuesday 12th May 2009
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Simpo Two said:
Driller said:
Can you say Leukaemia?
Statistically proven, or media paranoia in absence of actual knowledge?

(Nobody seems to mind having mobiles strapped to their heads pumping microwave radiation into their brains from 0.5" range)
We've built houses literally right underneath overhead power lines. The last development of this type that I was responsible for (which also had a couple of microwave communications masts nearby, for good measure), we had an electromagnetic field survey done which proved that the levels were an order of magnitude (something like 250 times, from memory) lower than the recommended maximum level for constant exposure.

As others have said, though, it's perfectly possible to divert power lines or to take them underground, but the cost is usually very substantial.

Sheriff JWPepper

3,851 posts

210 months

Tuesday 12th May 2009
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Simpo Two said:
Grow clematis up them?
hehe

davidjpowell

18,061 posts

190 months

Tuesday 12th May 2009
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Depending on how close they are it would be an issue with some lenders, who may not lend at all.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

261 months

Tuesday 12th May 2009
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prand said:
The cables run to within 50-70 metres from the farmhouse. Beyond the buzzing and spoling the viewm would this pose a serious threat to life?
Don't know...

Try prodding them with a long metal pole....

V8A*ndy

3,695 posts

197 months

Wednesday 13th May 2009
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Simpo Two said:
Driller said:
Can you say Leukaemia?
Statistically proven, or media paranoia in absence of actual knowledge?

(Nobody seems to mind having mobiles strapped to their heads pumping microwave radiation into their brains from 0.5" range)
I think I read somewhere that the building of new houses may soon be banned within 60 meters of a pylon or power lines.

ETA found some info. Scroll down it's near the bottom.

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200607/...

Just as well I refused to buy that house the wife wanted with the 220KV Pylon in the back garden.

Edited by V8A*ndy on Wednesday 13th May 01:43

Sam_68

9,939 posts

251 months

Wednesday 13th May 2009
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V8A*ndy said:
I think I read somewhere that the building of new houses may soon be banned within 60 meters of a pylon or power lines.
Ms Harman said:
It is a difficult subject on which the science is advancing. I will draw this matter to the attention of my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Health.
That's quite a long way from 'may soon be banned'.

Your not good at political speak, are you?

I'll translate:
'It is a difficult subject on which the science is advancing' = 'you're almost certainly talking bks, but I'm not going to say so straight out just in case I'm wrong, so that I can later claim to have supported your ideas'

'I will draw this matter to the attention of the Secretary of State for Health' = 'I have no intention of pandering to your hobby-horse, but again I'm not going to say so outright in case I'm later proved wrong. If I was remotely interested in promoting this legislation, I'd be drawing it to the attention of the person responsible for administering the Planning system, not the one responsible for running the Health Service.'

HTH