Viewed first house tonight - FTB

Viewed first house tonight - FTB

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Luke Pearson

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2,233 posts

255 months

Thursday 8th January 2009
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Im looking at moving out with my girlfriend at the moment and viewed our first house tonight!

We have a healthy deposit, really liked the house we saw, it had everything and even more than we wanted! Viewing it again saturday with the parents.

Its just been dropped by approx 30k and we may make an offer which is around another 15 - 20k below that. The owner currently has no mortgage on the property and has also not been living in it for the past 8 months.

As ive never done this before, is this a wise idea or going in too low, as we have had a mortgage offer and of course have no upper chain.

ETA: House was dropped to £150k [if this makes any difference to you lot]

arryb

10,591 posts

205 months

Thursday 8th January 2009
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What's the worst they can do? Refuse your first offer?? You don't ask, you don't get tongue out

mouseymousey

2,641 posts

240 months

Thursday 8th January 2009
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Why are you going back to view it with your parents?

Cut those apron strings! biggrin

elster

17,517 posts

213 months

Thursday 8th January 2009
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mouseymousey said:
Why are you going back to view it with your parents?

Cut those apron strings! biggrin
As he has never had a house they may have more idea clearly.

I was told if you don't cringe when offering. Offer lower.

Luke Pearson

Original Poster:

2,233 posts

255 months

Thursday 8th January 2009
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elster said:
mouseymousey said:
Why are you going back to view it with your parents?

Cut those apron strings! biggrin
As he has never had a house they may have more idea clearly.

I was told if you don't cringe when offering. Offer lower.
Exactly, thats why we went to the first viewing ourself, and asked all the necessary questions i wanted to know. As ive not bought before i may have missed something, and with this amount of money i would rather them see if they notice anything.

I was originally thinking of offering a silly amount about 20k less.

mouseymousey

2,641 posts

240 months

Thursday 8th January 2009
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Do most first time buyers get their parents to give prospective houses the once over then?


MiniMan64

17,225 posts

193 months

Thursday 8th January 2009
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Just done the same thing mate, going through the joys of solicitors paperwork and HIP's now, having an uncle who's a surveyor helps a bit though!

Offer what you think you'd pay for it, the worst they can say is no and you can raise the offer, its a buyers market although I think people are more likely to put off selling rather than accept lower prices. The flat we are buying had 10% knocked off asking the week before we bought it and we still got it for under that price.

Have fun!

jimbo65

752 posts

201 months

Thursday 8th January 2009
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mouseymousey said:
Do most first time buyers get their parents to give prospective houses the once over then?
No

elster

17,517 posts

213 months

Thursday 8th January 2009
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mouseymousey said:
Do most first time buyers get their parents to give prospective houses the once over then?
Yeah I took my dad.

dave_s13

13,846 posts

272 months

Thursday 8th January 2009
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jimbo65 said:
mouseymousey said:
Do most first time buyers get their parents to give prospective houses the once over then?
No
I did. It's a good idea if you've no idea about central heating, windows, roofs, loft insultion, surface drainage, fascia boards, rendering, wiring, gutters....etc etc etc

All things that I used to get a fair chunk knocked off my house with help of my dad (who's a QS).

Bit like buying your first car, much better to take a second pair of more experienced eyes.

B17NNS

18,506 posts

250 months

Thursday 8th January 2009
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Absolutely no shame in taking someone more knowledgeable or with more experience along. May point out a few things you hadn't noticed or not thought to ask.

As has been said, if your offer doesn't embarrass you, it's too high.

VxDuncan

2,850 posts

237 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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Hell yeah, we take fair too little time in viewing houses in this country. Far less than when buying cars in fact.

Experience is worth it if you ask me...

williamp

19,386 posts

276 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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no harm in taking along any number of things. I'm selling mmy house at the moment, and its amazing how little FTB know- they ask the wrong questions. Not things like "how much is the council tax" but "are the walls straight?"
"Tell me about loft conversions" when I dont have one, and dont know about them..

So get as much advice as you can. And put the low offer in- they'll onyl say no, and you can go back with a more sensible offer if they do

Good luck, and dont be afraid to ask difficult questions!

(mutters under his breath about trying to sell his 3 bed semi wth large garage for £110K and having no offers...)

h4muf

2,070 posts

210 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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williamp said:
(mutters under his breath about trying to sell his 3 bed semi wth large garage for £110K and having no offers...)
Tell me about it!

I`m trying to sell my one bed,end terrace with huge drive and a new boiler
fitted today for 60k and having no offers smile

rah1888

1,555 posts

190 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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h4muf said:
williamp said:
(mutters under his breath about trying to sell his 3 bed semi wth large garage for £110K and having no offers...)
Tell me about it!

I`m trying to sell my one bed,end terrace with huge drive and a new boiler
fitted today for 60k and having no offers smile
60k seems a lot for a boiler
getmecoat

Iain328

12,442 posts

209 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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Luke Pearson said:
Im looking at moving out with my girlfriend at the moment and viewed our first house tonight!

We have a healthy deposit, really liked the house we saw, it had everything and even more than we wanted! Viewing it again saturday with the parents.

Its just been dropped by approx 30k and we may make an offer which is around another 15 - 20k below that. The owner currently has no mortgage on the property and has also not been living in it for the past 8 months.

As ive never done this before, is this a wise idea or going in too low, as we have had a mortgage offer and of course have no upper chain.

ETA: House was dropped to £150k [if this makes any difference to you lot]
Good idea to take someone else to have a look & get a second opinion. Extra pairs of eyes & all that.

Aside from the house itself, look at some basic stuff:

Any power lines or electricity substations nearby?
Road noise?
Rail noise?
Aircraft noise?
Any weird smells outside (local farms, council tips etc etc)?
Any industrial plants in the vicinity or within a 1-2 mile radius & if so in which direction?
Pubs/restaurants in the vicinity (i.e. noise at night)?
Secure parking?
Flood risk?
What's the light like inside the house - which way does the garden face?
Do the neighbouring properties look well cared for?
Any trees etc on the property that you would be responsible for & if so what condition are they in?
Any form of shared maintenance costs to be considered?

etc etc etc.

Money-wise: Go low & offer to complete quickly before house prices fall even further! If it gets refused ask them to make a counter offer (i.e. don't just keep adding to your offer cos the seller will sit there all day once you start doing that till he thinks you've gone as far as you can).

Good luck.

Slagathore

5,832 posts

195 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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Was it being rented in those 8 months the owner wasn't there, or just completely empty?


DieselJohn

2,114 posts

259 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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mouseymousey said:
Do most first time buyers get their parents to give prospective houses the once over then?
I did.

Biker's Nemesis

39,407 posts

211 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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I asked my parents to view this place with me and the Mrs before we bought it 16 years ago, with their advice we found it justified our interest.

there's no shame in advice from people with your best interest at heart.

Geoffers

889 posts

256 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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Always get a second opinion,
Put in a daft offer, you may well find the agent will come back and say "Our client will not accept your offer of X, but they will accept Y "
Gives you a good idea of what the vendor will actually accept. It also helps to state that if the offer is accepted, you would look to exchange and complete in 10 to 12 weeks.