Oh no, not another property thread........

Oh no, not another property thread........

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Dave_ST220

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10,341 posts

211 months

Saturday 18th October 2008
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Interested to see what others think on this one. Property was built in 2002 and sold for £218.995. Ex show home so probably finished to "high" standard, 4 bed detached with detached double garage in a good area. Went on the market in October 2007 for £322,500 and was taken off in February this year. Went back on again in June this year at £315,000 REGION. At the height of the market the highest price achieved in that area was £302,000. I know what i'd offer and a family member works in an estate agents hence i have the above info and has told me what they'd offer. Thoughts?

phumy

5,738 posts

243 months

Saturday 18th October 2008
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How can you expect people to make a guess on the price when so may other factors are required. Where is it? What condition? Whats the surroundings like? etc.........

How long is this piece of string im holding?

Captain Volvo

204 posts

205 months

Saturday 18th October 2008
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is it a metre?

Dave_ST220

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10,341 posts

211 months

Saturday 18th October 2008
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I'm not asking for a dead on figure i'm interested in what people would think the price would be with the information given. Ex show home that is 6 years old, condition looks immaculate and the area is good.

jamesc_1729

468 posts

195 months

Saturday 18th October 2008
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£267,500 ?

If at the height of the market(aug07), the ceiling price was 302k, then I don't understand how someone could recommend that it was put up for 315k, this year (i.e after a 13% fall has occurred)

Anyhow, go on then, whats your opinion? - and I am interested in what an estate agent thinks you should offer

Edited by jamesc_1729 on Saturday 18th October 10:44


Edited by jamesc_1729 on Saturday 18th October 10:46

UpTheIron

4,009 posts

274 months

Saturday 18th October 2008
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Offer the 2002 price and you've got yourself a good deal, anything close to £250k and your buying the risk it will drop further.

tim the pool man

5,021 posts

223 months

Saturday 18th October 2008
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OK I'll play the silly game... $650K?

What do I win?

minimax

11,984 posts

262 months

Saturday 18th October 2008
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Dave_ST220 said:
Interested to see what others think on this one. Property was built in 2002 and sold for £218.995. Ex show home so probably finished to "high" standard, 4 bed detached with detached double garage in a good area. Went on the market in October 2007 for £322,500 and was taken off in February this year. Went back on again in June this year at £315,000 REGION. At the height of the market the highest price achieved in that area was £302,000. I know what i'd offer and a family member works in an estate agents hence i have the above info and has told me what they'd offer. Thoughts?
that's a 250k bid if ever I saw one

smile

Dave_ST220

Original Poster:

10,341 posts

211 months

Saturday 18th October 2008
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jamesc_1729 said:
£267,500 ?

If at the height of the market(aug07), the ceiling price was 302k, then I don't understand how someone could recommend that it was put up for 315k, this year (i.e after a 13% fall has occurred)

Anyhow, go on then, whats your opinion? - and I am interested in what an estate agent thinks you should offer

Edited by jamesc_1729 on Saturday 18th October 10:44


Edited by jamesc_1729 on Saturday 18th October 10:46
Spot on! My personal feeling is below stamp duty, i'd say the vendors aren't really interested in moving, if they can get they think it's worth they'll move, if not then they'll stay put.

Dave_ST220

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10,341 posts

211 months

Saturday 18th October 2008
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tim the pool man said:
OK I'll play the silly game... $650K?

What do I win?
Nothing, because i can't be arsed to convert AUS $ to £ biggrin Next time try harder and you may win a prize.

Dave_ST220

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10,341 posts

211 months

Monday 27th October 2008
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Ok, the house was st in a cramed in estate. However a new build by a small developer is nearing completion, our house has been valued and came in at exactly what i thought, we went to the bank on Saturday & they are willing to lend easily enough ££. Agent says the house will be marketed at £275K with "stamp duty incentives" bringing it down to £266,750. My feeling is that 15% off in this market is perfectly feasible so £233,750?? Any developers on here that do this for a living?

scotal

8,751 posts

285 months

Monday 27th October 2008
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Did the bank know you are looking at new build, some have very odd rules on brand new homes at the moment. (Mainly flats to be fair, but houses too.)

Dave_ST220

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10,341 posts

211 months

Monday 27th October 2008
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scotal said:
Did the bank know you are looking at new build, some have very odd rules on brand new homes at the moment. (Mainly flats to be fair, but houses too.)
Yep, max LTV 80% but we are in the 75% LTV bracket(or will be when i stump up my loot!) anyway wink You can see the banks point, new builds have piss take prices, also have an extra fee as they will want to vaule it themselves.

ALawson

7,845 posts

257 months

Monday 27th October 2008
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Stick all the details into http://www.zoopla.co.uk/ and see what it says.

scotal

8,751 posts

285 months

Monday 27th October 2008
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ALawson said:
Stick all the details into http://www.zoopla.co.uk/ and see what it says.
And bear in mind that Zoopla is hopelessly wide of the mark when valuing. Our house and our neighbours (pretty mucht he same has a 20% difference in "value" on there.


BigLepton

5,042 posts

207 months

Monday 27th October 2008
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scotal said:
ALawson said:
Stick all the details into http://www.zoopla.co.uk/ and see what it says.
And bear in mind that Zoopla is hopelessly wide of the mark when valuing. Our house and our neighbours (pretty mucht he same has a 20% difference in "value" on there.
Is that coz you live in one of them and not in the other? biggrin

Dave_ST220

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10,341 posts

211 months

Monday 27th October 2008
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anonymous said:
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Yep i know that, and the agent in no uncertain words knows the score, i said i don't want BS i want a value that you can say to me i can find a buyer for, the sums so far have been worse scenario with me taking 7% off what the agent said?? ps, my ST is worth about 9K now!!! The "problem" i have is we love this area and this house has what we need (double garage, study etc) as i work from home(no other builds old or new have that here). I wasn't planning on moving until next year but if i can get a good deal i'd take a punt on this one, afterall we don't plan to move again...

Dave_ST220

Original Poster:

10,341 posts

211 months

Monday 27th October 2008
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ALawson said:
Stick all the details into http://www.zoopla.co.uk/ and see what it says.
That site seems pretty pointless IMO, values are way out going on experience of the area.

Andy Zarse

10,868 posts

253 months

Monday 27th October 2008
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Dave_ST220 said:
ALawson said:
Stick all the details into http://www.zoopla.co.uk/ and see what it says.
That site seems pretty pointless IMO, values are way out going on experience of the area.
Based on historic data (like sales in the first two quarters of 08?) they may be out, who knows. I think it's what happens in the next quarter, and beyond, which would be concerning me much more...

Dave_ST220

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10,341 posts

211 months

Monday 27th October 2008
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New build estate-totally agree, trouble is this is a plot of land that belonged to an old cottage on an old road just outside of a major new development. Not overlooked and never will be and a decent sized plot. I think offer what i think it's worth now, ie, 15% off would be £233,750, can't see 20% being achievable ??(£220K). It's all a game really isn't it? A bloody expensive one but a game, the developers know what they need to get out of this which is why i'd love to hear from builders if there are any on here??

Edited by Dave_ST220 on Monday 27th October 11:57