Recommend an impact driver please

Recommend an impact driver please

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21TonyK

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12,393 posts

223 months

Sunday 22nd June
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As I'm doing more and more home mechanics one of the things I am missing is an impact driver.

Looking for something I can use with normal sockets but also for DIY as a driver.

No battery system to match, my makita stuff is on its last legs (20+ years old).


PushedDover

6,538 posts

67 months

Sunday 22nd June
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I bought several years ago a cheapo McAllister job. biught one for a mate and FIL too.

I have sockets for it and the drivers - never failed to shift, drive or remove a screw or bolt.
Maybe not a fully invested PH answer I know... but I dont know what else one needs from a gun.

https://www.diy.com/departments/mac-allister-solo-...

KTMsm

28,816 posts

277 months

Sunday 22nd June
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You shouldn't use them with normal sockets because they can split and spit bits of socket at you - a set of Bergen or US Pro impact sockets aren't expensive

The first question is are you looking for a small one to speed up jobs or a massive one to get off wheel nuts ?

I ask the question because bought a big heavy one and found it to be useless for 99% of jobs. I then bought a small light one and it's great and I just use a big bar when required (I CBA to dig the big one out unless I'm stripping a car down)


danb79

11,569 posts

86 months

Sunday 22nd June
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21TonyK said:
As I'm doing more and more home mechanics one of the things I am missing is an impact driver.

Looking for something I can use with normal sockets but also for DIY as a driver.

No battery system to match, my makita stuff is on its last legs (20+ years old).
I've one similar to this that I've had for years now; use it all the time on our cars, zero issues - for £99 its unbeatable IMO

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Protmex-Cordless-Brushles...

shirt

24,273 posts

215 months

Sunday 22nd June
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As mentioned, normal sockets will fail and an impact wrench isn t like a hammer drill in that it s impact can be turned off.

There s a lot to be said about a mighty impact wrench. I have an ingersol rand beast that is most definitely an off tool, wouldn t want to use it to fit a nut I wanted to stay nut shaped.

But for light duty, your preference of tool brand in an 3/8 will suffice.

Edited by shirt on Monday 23 June 09:47

NiceCupOfTea

25,374 posts

265 months

Sunday 22nd June
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I've got separate impact drivers and impact wrenches - I think you can get an attachment so that you can use impact sockets for a driver, but not sure if they are limited in torque... Both mine are Makita and have survived light DIY use very well (wrench mostly used for stubborn wheelbolts, driver made short work of repairing my decking last summer). I think Makita / de Walt are mostly on a par and both offer various models of each, Milwaukee if you are made of money rofl

I bought a cheapo Parkside middle-of-Lidl impact wrench a few years ago and it was great in testing. When I first came to use it in anger a few months late the battery had st itself internally... buy cheap buy twice...

21TonyK

Original Poster:

12,393 posts

223 months

Sunday 22nd June
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KTMsm said:
You shouldn't use them with normal sockets because they can split and spit bits of socket at you - a set of Bergen or US Pro impact sockets aren't expensive

The first question is are you looking for a small one to speed up jobs or a massive one to get off wheel nuts ?

I ask the question because bought a big heavy one and found it to be useless for 99% of jobs. I then bought a small light one and it's great and I just use a big bar when required (I CBA to dig the big one out unless I'm stripping a car down)
Small one, didnt know about using specific sockets... add to the list.

normalbloke

8,068 posts

233 months

Sunday 22nd June
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You may want to investigate getting an impact driver and a seperate impact wrench. Most of the decent manufacturers often have a boxed combo of the two and a couple of batts and a charger, almost as a loss leader. Check out the likes of FFX and ITS. I’d recommend Milwaukee all day long, but 8m biased! Good luck.

KTMsm

28,816 posts

277 months

Monday 23rd June
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21TonyK said:
Small one, didnt know about using specific sockets... add to the list.
If it's a small one to speed up repetitive jobs then I bought a Milwaukee - because at the time it was one of the smallest available and I had the batteries

I'm very pleased with it and personally I'm happy to use normal sockets as it can't put the force through them that I can with a ratchet


bennno

13,740 posts

283 months

Monday 23rd June
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21TonyK said:
As I'm doing more and more home mechanics one of the things I am missing is an impact driver.

Looking for something I can use with normal sockets but also for DIY as a driver.

No battery system to match, my makita stuff is on its last legs (20+ years old).
An impact driver is effectively a screwdriver, think you are seeking an impact wrench if its for use with sockets.

_Jonesy_

33 posts

117 months

Monday 23rd June
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Milwaukee M18 impact driver. Perfect for driving screws but more than powerful enough to use with a socket adapter too. Use mine all the time

98elise

29,676 posts

175 months

Monday 23rd June
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bennno said:
21TonyK said:
As I'm doing more and more home mechanics one of the things I am missing is an impact driver.

Looking for something I can use with normal sockets but also for DIY as a driver.

No battery system to match, my makita stuff is on its last legs (20+ years old).
An impact driver is effectively a screwdriver, think you are seeking an impact wrench if its for use with sockets.
This.

I have a socket adapter for my Bosch driver. Its fine for buzzing bolts off once they're lose, but it won't touch anything tight, or stubborn.

gazapc

1,361 posts

174 months

Monday 23rd June
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98elise said:
This.

I have a socket adapter for my Bosch driver. Its fine for buzzing bolts off once they're lose, but it won't touch anything tight, or stubborn.
Exactly.

OP what mechanical work are you doing. If its undoing a few small bolts, trim etc.. an impact driver will be fine.

If you are doing anying more then you need an impact wrench. You won't be undoing wheel nuts or suspension bolts with an impact driver.

If you want to go down a rabbit hole check out Project Farm or Torque Test Channel on youtube.
Another option/hint is sign up to alerts on HotUKDeals for your chosen yellow/red/teal tools

TwistingMyMelon

6,442 posts

219 months

Monday 23rd June
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Arent drivers and wrenches different - IE you need one one for Car use and one for home use.

Agree on the bits and sockets being different, its best to get a impact specific bit set for the driver

I bought the cheap Titan Impact driver from Screwfix as my other broke and it was all they had in stock 6pm on a Saturday

Its really good and much exceed expectations for the price - nothing has defeated it yet round the home and garden

I got it with the drill, but you can get it on its own
https://www.screwfix.com/p/titan-tti885ipd-18v-2-x...

bennno

13,740 posts

283 months

Monday 23rd June
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Again - an impact driver is effectively a high power electronic screwdriver, with a hex chuck to fit screwdriver bits, plus a limited number of small / low load sockets.

An impact wrench is for sockets / automotive use. Impact wrenches come in 1/4, 3/8 and 1/2 and a mix of voltages and spec's dependent upon planned use.

If the OP wants it to remove wheel bolts it'll need to be high toque, probably 18V and at least 3/8 - but that'll sheer off small 10mm nuts with ease.

normalbloke

8,068 posts

233 months

Monday 23rd June
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bennno said:
Again - an impact driver is effectively a high power electronic screwdriver, with a hex chuck to fit screwdriver bits, plus a limited number of small / low load sockets.

An impact wrench is for sockets / automotive use. Impact wrenches come in 1/4, 3/8 and 1/2 and a mix of voltages and spec's dependent upon planned use.

If the OP wants it to remove wheel bolts it'll need to be high toque, probably 18V and at least 3/8 - but that'll sheer off small 10mm nuts with ease.
Bizarrely my Milwaukee M18 1/4” drive impact driver is more than happy to undo wheel nuts with a socket adapter. I don’t often do that mind…

98elise

29,676 posts

175 months

Monday 23rd June
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TwistingMyMelon said:
Arent drivers and wrenches different - IE you need one one for Car use and one for home use.

Agree on the bits and sockets being different, its best to get a impact specific bit set for the driver

I bought the cheap Titan Impact driver from Screwfix as my other broke and it was all they had in stock 6pm on a Saturday

Its really good and much exceed expectations for the price - nothing has defeated it yet round the home and garden

I got it with the drill, but you can get it on its own
https://www.screwfix.com/p/titan-tti885ipd-18v-2-x...
Yes they're different, but an impact driver can also drive sockets (with an adaptor).

I use mine on the car, but if say I'm getting a wheel off then I have to start with a wheel brace. It still saves time but its not replacing a wheel brace or breaker bar.

Its like the difference between a combi drill and an SDS drill.

iguana

7,185 posts

274 months

Monday 23rd June
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As above is a difference between a wrench & a driver & big power differences, like the Mac driver listed above is 100nm but my Sealy wrench is 650nm & it wasn't much more dosh.

Some of the cheaper eBay or amazon etc wrenches will have a bit holder in the middle of the 1/2 end so it can kinda do both. I've got a cheapie one of those too, not the power of my larger sealy but it's done wheel nuts etc & for me handy as it sharesthe Makita fake battery type of my cheapie cordlessangke grinder.

My cheapie
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/176791209106

The bigger grunt sealy, I got it for £131 tho I think

https://www.toolden.co.uk/new-sealey/sealey-cp650l...



Edited by iguana on Monday 23 June 12:29

PushedDover

6,538 posts

67 months

Monday 23rd June
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normalbloke said:
bennno said:
Again - an impact driver is effectively a high power electronic screwdriver, with a hex chuck to fit screwdriver bits, plus a limited number of small / low load sockets.

An impact wrench is for sockets / automotive use. Impact wrenches come in 1/4, 3/8 and 1/2 and a mix of voltages and spec's dependent upon planned use.

If the OP wants it to remove wheel bolts it'll need to be high toque, probably 18V and at least 3/8 - but that'll sheer off small 10mm nuts with ease.
Bizarrely my Milwaukee M18 1/4 drive impact driver is more than happy to undo wheel nuts with a socket adapter. I don t often do that mind
same with my cheapo listed above.
I have not found anything my Mcallister driver could not shift (I have an adaptor and impact sockets)
I dare say that there will be something it cant do - but i have not experienced that for some / all of my DIY. / auto stuff.

normalbloke

8,068 posts

233 months

Monday 23rd June
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PushedDover said:
normalbloke said:
bennno said:
Again - an impact driver is effectively a high power electronic screwdriver, with a hex chuck to fit screwdriver bits, plus a limited number of small / low load sockets.

An impact wrench is for sockets / automotive use. Impact wrenches come in 1/4, 3/8 and 1/2 and a mix of voltages and spec's dependent upon planned use.

If the OP wants it to remove wheel bolts it'll need to be high toque, probably 18V and at least 3/8 - but that'll sheer off small 10mm nuts with ease.
Bizarrely my Milwaukee M18 1/4 drive impact driver is more than happy to undo wheel nuts with a socket adapter. I don t often do that mind
same with my cheapo listed above.
I have not found anything my Mcallister driver could not shift (I have an adaptor and impact sockets)
I dare say that there will be something it cant do - but i have not experienced that for some / all of my DIY. / auto stuff.
There’s always a limit. That’s why I bought the MW 1” drive too…