Small Shed Base - uneven concrete

Small Shed Base - uneven concrete

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Gad-Westy

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228 months

Saturday 7th June
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Hi all. My MIL has just moved and wants a small shed (5x3) in her garden. Where needs to sit is currently concrete with a slope. I'd rather not break the concrete up or pour a raised pad in case MIL changes her mind about where it should go.

So best options for providing a level base? I'd though about making a timber frame with varying foot lengths in each corner. Might still do that but seems like I'll be adding a lot of unnecessary height. Any recommended levelling contraptions or other approaches I should consider?

98elise

29,735 posts

176 months

Saturday 7th June
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I'd build a timber frame, Sheds are not particularly tall in the first place.

JoshSm

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52 months

Saturday 7th June
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How much slope is involved?

Gad-Westy

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Saturday 7th June
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JoshSm said:
How much slope is involved?
Probably just a couple of inches drop but not in just one direction.

Gad-Westy

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98elise said:
I'd build a timber frame, Sheds are not particularly tall in the first place.
Ta. That’s probably the current plan.

JoshSm

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Saturday 7th June
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Problem is, basic shed floors normally expect quite a few points of support under them so you'll need a reasonable amount of framing to go under it especially if levelling it from just the corners. And timber isn't really that cheap even if you're just using something basic like fence posts for the framing.

Worth doing the maths of materials & time & effort vs the volume of concrete to level it and the effort for that. It doesn't have to be *good* concrete.

Gad-Westy

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JoshSm said:
Problem is, basic shed floors normally expect quite a few points of support under them so you'll need a reasonable amount of framing to go under it especially if levelling it from just the corners. And timber isn't really that cheap even if you're just using something basic like fence posts for the framing.

Worth doing the maths of materials & time & effort vs the volume of concrete to level it and the effort for that. It doesn't have to be *good* concrete.
Cheers. The concrete thing is not a cost thing. Just a reflection on the fact she's just moved in and where things go now might not be permanent.

T1547

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149 months

Saturday 7th June
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Self-levelling compound over the existing concrete?

There are products on the market suitable for external use and can be trafficked afterwards.

Danns

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74 months

Saturday 7th June
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Varying quantities of slabs to make frame level at sufficient contact points.

Took out a shed this year in my garden that had been built exactly like that, was there for 15 years. 60mm of fall on the slab over 3 meters.

Albeit.. it was 3 separate slabs joined together and I’ve just put a patio there instead… sbr slurry, mesh, big pour, unless you have to have a dead flat area I wouldn’t bother, was a lot of work!

Added benefit water doesn t pool under shed.

Edited by Danns on Saturday 7th June 19:27

JoshSm

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Gad-Westy said:
Cheers. The concrete thing is not a cost thing. Just a reflection on the fact she's just moved in and where things go now might not be permanent.
Even on that basis, if ideas change the frame is going to be scrap just like the slab might go under a sledgehammer.

I'd just do whatever is easiest now as if it has to change later the work is a write-off anyway.

It's not like you're considering 200mm of rebarred slab or any of that level of stuff, just enough good-enough overlay to level it which doesn't sound like it needs to be much.

OutInTheShed

11,344 posts

41 months

Saturday 7th June
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Depends what the shed floor is going to be.

If it's going to be wooden bearers supporting a sheet floor, it can work well if you shim each bearer level at say 18" centres.
I would use plastic shims in contact with the concrete, to keep the bearers dry.
A few offcuts of wood, a few chocks or shims cut from something like an old plastic kitchen chopping board, job done and you've got a dry floor in your shed.
You can drill and wallplug into the concrete to locate the shims, if you remove it later there's just a few 8mm holes in the concrete.

For sure, if you're putting heavy machinery in there, you might want a solid concrete floor.

CrgT16

2,299 posts

123 months

Saturday 7th June
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If only a few inches I would put a word form around it and level it with new concrete it’s a dead easy job.

Badda

3,202 posts

97 months

Saturday 7th June
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Mighty mole

Macneil

989 posts

95 months

Saturday 7th June
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Same issue here, shed provider used shims under the subframe on an 8x6 shed, solid as a rock

mrpbailey

1,001 posts

201 months

Sunday 8th June
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Wooden frame supported by plastic, height adjustable decking risers?


https://www.wickes.co.uk/Jouplast-Plastic-Adjustab...

M138

538 posts

6 months

Sunday 8th June
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If you can overhang the perimeter of the shed on the concrete base it will stop the bottom of the shed rotting out. An inch all round will be enough.

Alex Z

1,782 posts

91 months

Sunday 8th June
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Oooh, I like the look of those decking risers. Very handy

NickXX

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233 months

Sunday 8th June
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From a previous recommendation on here I used Quickjacks on a similar surface. Slightly uneven and over tree roots, so I didn t want to lay a concrete slab. You can adjust the height on each of the supports and is very easy to build. Mine is supporting an 10x8 shed.

https://shedbasekits.com/product-category/quickjac...

Gad-Westy

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228 months

Sunday 8th June
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Thanks all. I quite like the idea of building a frame on levelling jacks. Seems a bit more movable if it ever comes to it. Need to measure up and see how much drop there actually is.

GliderRider

2,682 posts

96 months

Sunday 8th June
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Quite a range of heights from these people.