Neighbour has just built a fence on my land!

Neighbour has just built a fence on my land!

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Mark300zx

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1,429 posts

267 months

Tuesday 20th May
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I am currently refurbing a house, and took a couple of weeks off, came back and my neighbour has built a fence on my side of the front garden.

It is a small front garden that I wanted to convert into a drive, so space is at a premium.

I spoke to the wife, and she said the fencer followed the line of the previous fence, which is a lie, and she keeps on referring back to the fencer, we are only at the preliminary stages so don't want to lose my cool at this point in proceedings!

Photo attached!


blueg33

41,336 posts

239 months

Tuesday 20th May
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Inherent is on your land, you can remove it.

mikeyr

3,196 posts

208 months

Tuesday 20th May
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Photo doesn't really show anything, other than a fence(!) but perhaps worth going on Google street view and screenshotting images of previous fences, depending where you live you might have several different years worth of images. Or just ones from 2009. Either way, probably useful for any conversations with neighbours

ukwill

9,528 posts

222 months

Tuesday 20th May
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From the position against the wall it appears to be on your side. I can’t see how they could suggest otherwise?

Mark300zx

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Tuesday 20th May
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ukwill said:
From the position against the wall it appears to be on your side. I can’t see how they could suggest otherwise?
Thanks for confirming, I think they are taking the piss and claiming ignorance!

jules_s

4,795 posts

248 months

Tuesday 20th May
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mikeyr said:
Photo doesn't really show anything, other than a fence(!) but perhaps worth going on Google street view and screenshotting images of previous fences, depending where you live you might have several different years worth of images. Or just ones from 2009. Either way, probably useful for any conversations with neighbours
It shows the fence off the centre of the brick panel by circa 2"

Mark300zx

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Tuesday 20th May
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ukwill said:
From the position against the wall it appears to be on your side. I can’t see how they could suggest otherwise?
Thanks for confirming, I think they are taking the piss and claiming ignorance!

OldGermanHeaps

4,652 posts

193 months

Tuesday 20th May
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Looks like it should come down pretty easily though, 15 minutes and a sledgehammer should see it solved.

Tisy

699 posts

7 months

Tuesday 20th May
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Based on the brickwork it only looks to be about 3 inch out. Is it worth falling out over and the legal requirement to list neighbour conflicts when you come to sell? I think I would let it slide if they were otherwise good neighbours in terms of being quiet and not doing stuff to annoy me, but would keep a close eye on them in future. Bigger things in life to get worked up into a lather over. If they were nobs and neighbourly relations were already at a low then I would challenge it just out of principle.

Mark300zx

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Tuesday 20th May
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Tisy said:
Based on the brickwork it only looks to be about 3 inch out. Is it worth falling out over and the legal requirement to list neighbour conflicts when you come to sell? I think I would let it slide if they were otherwise good neighbours in terms of being quiet and not doing stuff to annoy me, but would keep a close eye on them in future. Bigger things in life to get worked up into a lather over. If they were nobs and neighbourly relations were already at a low then I would challenge it just out of principle.
I'm afraid the photo is deceptive, the posts are 6x6 and are concreted in on my side of the boundary line.

WelshRich

479 posts

72 months

Tuesday 20th May
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Assuming that your house is on the left, it looks as though The fence has been installed as though it was “your” fence - you have the rough side (the posts) and the face on their side appears to bang-on the property dividing line.

I know they put it up, but is it actually your fence on the deeds?


Mark300zx

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Tuesday 20th May
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WelshRich said:
Assuming that your house is on the left, it looks as though The fence has been installed as though it was “your” fence - you have the rough side (the posts) and the face on their side appears to bang-on the property dividing line.

I know they put it up, but is it actually your fence on the deeds?
There is nothing on the deeds declaring or indicating fence ownership.

thetapeworm

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254 months

Tuesday 20th May
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I totally missed the section that runs back to the brickwork on my first look, is this right?



If so then it does look to be too far over and as others have said they've made the decision to give themselves the "good side" - perfectly legal but generally considered bad form, especially if the bad side is facing outwards out of the boundary like this.

The deeds should show the exact boundary but you'd think the brickwork would be confirmation enough.

Can you check Streetview and the satellite view to indicate how it's been previously as evidence?

Edited by thetapeworm on Tuesday 20th May 23:29

borcy

7,648 posts

71 months

Tuesday 20th May
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Can you confirm how far past centre the posts are?

Mark300zx

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thetapeworm said:
I totally missed the section that runs back to the brickwork on my first look, is this right?



If so then it does look to be too far over and as others have said they've made the decision to give themselves the "good side" - perfectly legal but generally considered bad form, especially if the bad side is facing outwards out of the boundary like this.

The deeds should show the exact boundary but you'd think the brickwork would be confirmation enough.

Can you check Streetview and the satellite view to indicate how we it's been previously as evidence?
Deeds, street view and satellite view are not in enough detail and the garden was overgrown prior to my arrival and yes the yellow line would be the common sense boundary!

Mark300zx

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borcy said:
Can you confirm how far past centre the posts are?
The centre posts I believe are 6x6 in concrete, so the concrete must add another 4 inches to that!

geeks

10,473 posts

154 months

Tuesday 20th May
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Yeah I would be annoyed about that too and not just because it looks st!

Dr Murdoch

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150 months

Tuesday 20th May
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geeks said:
Yeah I would be annoyed about that too and not just because it looks st!
Yup, it does look like a Friday afternoon job.

Chumley.mouse

701 posts

52 months

Tuesday 20th May
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That post against the wall doesn’t look to be a 6” post , looks like half a brick to me ? Not much bigger than the down pipe.

Mark300zx

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Chumley.mouse said:
That post against the wall doesn’t look to be a 6” post , looks like half a brick to me ? Not much bigger than the down pipe.
The centre and front post is, the back one is smaller or they would have to take out the drainpipe biggrin