Likelihood of removing pavement bush to create driveway
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What are the odds of getting permission to remove a pavement bush like this to enable creative a driveway? I’m considering buying this house, but the ability to have a driveway it’s important to me - no doubt the case for many PHers!
Has anyone succeeded in debushing the pavement to enable themselves to have a driveway? The two houses to the left have driveways, but the three houses to the right are bush-blocked, so no idea what that means precedent-wise.
Is there a standard council response to this kind of thing or does it vary by council/individual planning person? Thanks.
That grey bollard is probably a BT box or similar (Virgin Media?).
Regarding the bush, there should be no reason that it can't be removed to construct a driveway, but permission must be sought from the local council, and it's likely that they will want to do the work themselves (won't be cheap...)
If you're on a main road, it's likely that you'll also need planning permission.
Regarding the bush, there should be no reason that it can't be removed to construct a driveway, but permission must be sought from the local council, and it's likely that they will want to do the work themselves (won't be cheap...)
If you're on a main road, it's likely that you'll also need planning permission.
Depends on how keen they are to have another dropped kerb and a front garden removed, the wide verge + bush is just another blocker on top.
Pre existing development is no guide to what might be possible now, not just from policy changes but also cumulative effect.
And if it does happen you'll likely pay handsomely for their contractor.
Pre existing development is no guide to what might be possible now, not just from policy changes but also cumulative effect.
And if it does happen you'll likely pay handsomely for their contractor.
Sylvias_Father said:
That grey bollard is probably a BT box or similar (Virgin Media?).
Regarding the bush, there should be no reason that it can't be removed to construct a driveway, but permission must be sought from the local council, and it's likely that they will want to do the work themselves (won't be cheap...)
If you're on a main road, it's likely that you'll also need planning permission.
Looks like it. There are a load of similar grey stubby things dotted along the pavement/in some of the bushes.Regarding the bush, there should be no reason that it can't be removed to construct a driveway, but permission must be sought from the local council, and it's likely that they will want to do the work themselves (won't be cheap...)
If you're on a main road, it's likely that you'll also need planning permission.
Hmm. It’s a shame that the council may insist upon doing it. Not sure why they’d want the liability for any issues. Nope, it’s a side road, which isn’t too big.
JoshSm said:
Depends on how keen they are to have another dropped kerb and a front garden removed, the wide verge + bush is just another blocker on top.
Pre existing development is no guide to what might be possible now, not just from policy changes but also cumulative effect.
And if it does happen you'll likely pay handsomely for their contractor.
This is what I’m worried about re: cumulative effect. Would get one/two cars off the road, though, which surely addresses having additional cars on the road.Pre existing development is no guide to what might be possible now, not just from policy changes but also cumulative effect.
And if it does happen you'll likely pay handsomely for their contractor.
Chrisgr31 said:
Who actually owns that verge?
Would a better option be to get permission to use the access that is already over it?
Personally I'd always, always, always avoid anything around shared access. Neighbours now might be lovely. Neighbours in a year or 5 might be absolute weapons grade morons.Would a better option be to get permission to use the access that is already over it?
DaveyBoyWonder said:
Personally I'd always, always, always avoid anything around shared access. Neighbours now might be lovely. Neighbours in a year or 5 might be absolute weapons grade morons.
Sadly in zone 4 of London having a driveway and/or garage is rare enough, so if you write off the houses with shared access, you have even fewer options!Gastons_Revenge said:
Would be a less of a headache and likely cost the same in the end after application fees, the council's contractor fees etc. just to pony up the extra cash for a house with an existing driveway- unless this property has some other must-have attribute for you.
That’s fine when you have infinite choice and/or budget. Sadly I have neither of those!RoVoFob said:
What are the odds of getting permission to remove a pavement bush like this to enable creative a driveway? I’m considering buying this house, but the ability to have a driveway it’s important to me - no doubt the case for many PHers!
Has anyone succeeded in debushing the pavement to enable themselves to have a driveway? The two houses to the left have driveways, but the three houses to the right are bush-blocked, so no idea what that means precedent-wise.
Is there a standard council response to this kind of thing or does it vary by council/individual planning person? Thanks.
Richard-390a0 said:
It's not going to be much of a driveway considering that Nissan Juke next door is almost the entire length of the drive. Isn't there a minimum length for a drive to get permission? I'm sure I read something like that on here before.
That is true.One thing I haven’t said, as you’ll probably think I’m being a diva, is that the house does have a rear double garage. However, that is accessed via a rear lane with a locked gate, which would be awkward as the only parking, especially as I have a three-year-old son and often return from family trips with him asleep in the car and currently can empty the boot into the hallway with him asleep in the car about 10ft away from me.
That’s not practical with the only parking being at the end of a 65ft garden. Any creative solutions? Supersized wheelbarrow ‘train’ to move luggage to house while carrying son? On-call Sherpa? Hmm.
It would all form part of a dropped kerb application to the Authority. That may get refused but, in my experience, that doesn't tend to happen. What you also need to consider is that depending on your intended surfacing for the driveway itself, you may also need to apply for planning permission for the driveway within your curtilage.
Don't expect any communication between the two separate teams that would deal with either (planning & highways development control for the driveway and the highway works team for the footway crossing/dropped kerb application).
And then there's the cost to consider - I wouldn't expect any change from £5k or so for the dropped kerb/footway crossover application. And then on top of that there's any costs associated with planning if you need that for the driveway itself. Could easily become a £10k project.
Don't expect any communication between the two separate teams that would deal with either (planning & highways development control for the driveway and the highway works team for the footway crossing/dropped kerb application).
And then there's the cost to consider - I wouldn't expect any change from £5k or so for the dropped kerb/footway crossover application. And then on top of that there's any costs associated with planning if you need that for the driveway itself. Could easily become a £10k project.
RoVoFob said:
One thing I haven’t said, as you’ll probably think I’m being a diva, is that the house does have a rear double garage. However, that is accessed via a rear lane with a locked gate, which would be awkward as the only parking, especially as I have a three-year-old son and often return from family trips with him asleep in the car and currently can empty the boot into the hallway with him asleep in the car about 10ft away from me.
That’s not practical with the only parking being at the end of a 65ft garden. Any creative solutions? Supersized wheelbarrow ‘train’ to move luggage to house while carrying son? On-call Sherpa? Hmm.
That sounds ideal. A lot easier and cheaper than dealing with the Council: https://www.sacktrucks.co.uk/platform-truck-with-s...That’s not practical with the only parking being at the end of a 65ft garden. Any creative solutions? Supersized wheelbarrow ‘train’ to move luggage to house while carrying son? On-call Sherpa? Hmm.
Lift out car seat and put that with the sleeping son in it, as well ass all luggage, into the trolley and take it to the house at one go
TA14 said:
RoVoFob said:
One thing I haven’t said, as you’ll probably think I’m being a diva, is that the house does have a rear double garage. However, that is accessed via a rear lane with a locked gate, which would be awkward as the only parking, especially as I have a three-year-old son and often return from family trips with him asleep in the car and currently can empty the boot into the hallway with him asleep in the car about 10ft away from me.
That’s not practical with the only parking being at the end of a 65ft garden. Any creative solutions? Supersized wheelbarrow ‘train’ to move luggage to house while carrying son? On-call Sherpa? Hmm.
That sounds ideal. A lot easier and cheaper than dealing with the Council: https://www.sacktrucks.co.uk/platform-truck-with-s...That’s not practical with the only parking being at the end of a 65ft garden. Any creative solutions? Supersized wheelbarrow ‘train’ to move luggage to house while carrying son? On-call Sherpa? Hmm.
Lift out car seat and put that with the sleeping son in it, as well ass all luggage, into the trolley and take it to the house at one go
Swervin_Mervin said:
It would all form part of a dropped kerb application to the Authority. That may get refused but, in my experience, that doesn't tend to happen. What you also need to consider is that depending on your intended surfacing for the driveway itself, you may also need to apply for planning permission for the driveway within your curtilage.
Don't expect any communication between the two separate teams that would deal with either (planning & highways development control for the driveway and the highway works team for the footway crossing/dropped kerb application).
And then there's the cost to consider - I wouldn't expect any change from £5k or so for the dropped kerb/footway crossover application. And then on top of that there's any costs associated with planning if you need that for the driveway itself. Could easily become a £10k project.
That’s not an insubstantial cost, but not too big in property terms, although I suppose that doesn’t include any of the cost of creating the drive itself. The logistical nightmare of trying to get the teams to synchronise might be more stressful, though!Don't expect any communication between the two separate teams that would deal with either (planning & highways development control for the driveway and the highway works team for the footway crossing/dropped kerb application).
And then there's the cost to consider - I wouldn't expect any change from £5k or so for the dropped kerb/footway crossover application. And then on top of that there's any costs associated with planning if you need that for the driveway itself. Could easily become a £10k project.
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