Car shelter
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milu

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2,459 posts

282 months

Thursday 6th March
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Looking to cover my car on a budget.
Don’t fancy an outdoor cover. Too much hassle/damage
I have a concrete hard standing
So….
Machine mart canvas garage? Too flimsy and moisture ridden at times? Or ok? £400

Metal garage? Too much like a tin can? Also moisture ridden? Although I could insulate. Plus proper door, although security not that important. £1000

Wood carport? Could build one without issue. Have all the gear. Would probably go for 3 sides just front open. Not sure on cost. Probably similar to metal garage.

Metal carport/ canopy then maybe fill in sides a bit more. £700 ish

Would be nice to have a trickle charger rigged up inside

Owt else?

RicksAlfas

14,087 posts

260 months

Thursday 6th March
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A carport is a good idea as it covers the car but allows plenty of air flow around it.
No idea if you need planning permission for one?

miniman

28,254 posts

278 months

Thursday 6th March
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Watching with interest as I have a similar challenge with the added bonus of a narrow space.

milu

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2,459 posts

282 months

Thursday 6th March
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I’m leaning towards a wood 3 sided carport. Might fit in with the surrounding countryside too. Although there is only myself and one neighbour to see it.

Did occur to me to put the uprights on industrial castors so it could be moved. Don’t know why really, just a thought

Cow Corner

573 posts

46 months

Thursday 6th March
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milu said:
I’m leaning towards a wood 3 sided carport. Might fit in with the surrounding countryside too. Although there is only myself and one neighbour to see it.

Did occur to me to put the uprights on industrial castors so it could be moved. Don’t know why really, just a thought
Having a car port land in the neighbours garden during the next storm would make a nice change from a trampoline wink

RicksAlfas

14,087 posts

260 months

Thursday 6th March
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milu said:
I’m leaning towards a wood 3 sided carport. Might fit in with the surrounding countryside too. Although there is only myself and one neighbour to see it.

Did occur to me to put the uprights on industrial castors so it could be moved. Don’t know why really, just a thought
I think some massive bolts would be a better thought!
biggrin

brownspeed

946 posts

147 months

Thursday 6th March
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similar predicament here; I'll probably go down the car port route; looking at various design options for building a double width. interested how you get on

milu

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282 months

Thursday 6th March
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Cow Corner said:
milu said:
I’m leaning towards a wood 3 sided carport. Might fit in with the surrounding countryside too. Although there is only myself and one neighbour to see it.

Did occur to me to put the uprights on industrial castors so it could be moved. Don’t know why really, just a thought
Having a car port land in the neighbours garden during the next storm would make a nice change from a trampoline wink
Ha ha.
Yeah. Probably right. It is a windy spot sometimes too. Big anchor bolts it is!

dhutch

16,592 posts

213 months

Thursday 6th March
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milu said:
Don’t fancy an outdoor cover. Too much hassle/damage

Machine mart canvas garage? - Probably not going to last well other than on a short term basis? And damp?
Metal garage? - Deffo almost always damp!
Wood carport? - This would be my choice too, even just a roof and one side would help a huge amount assuming reasonable overhang.
Metal carport/canopy - No advantage over the above?

Would be nice to have a trickle charger - Independant item, doesnt even need the car to be sheltered! Check out the Noco 5.
Replied above.

Huzzah

28,080 posts

199 months

Thursday 6th March
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milu said:
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Did occur to me to put the uprights on industrial castors so it could be moved. Don’t know why really, just a thought
Would this negate the requirement for planning permission?

dhutch

16,592 posts

213 months

Thursday 6th March
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Huzzah said:
Would this negate the requirement for planning permission?
Interesting idea, static caravan logic!

milu

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282 months

Thursday 6th March
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dhutch said:
Huzzah said:
Would this negate the requirement for planning permission?
Interesting idea, static caravan logic!
Think it does. I was just thinking that the concrete area is big enough to have options on position. But as above, might be a bit of a kite!

Huzzah

28,080 posts

199 months

Thursday 6th March
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milu said:
dhutch said:
Huzzah said:
Would this negate the requirement for planning permission?
Interesting idea, static caravan logic!
Think it does. I was just thinking that the concrete area is big enough to have options on position. But as above, might be a bit of a kite!
If it was heavy enough it'd be OK. You could always add some tie down points, or some feet with sandbags on.

Cow Corner

573 posts

46 months

Thursday 6th March
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Huzzah said:
milu said:
dhutch said:
Huzzah said:
Would this negate the requirement for planning permission?
Interesting idea, static caravan logic!
Think it does. I was just thinking that the concrete area is big enough to have options on position. But as above, might be a bit of a kite!
If it was heavy enough it'd be OK. You could always add some tie down points, or some feet with sandbags on.
The problem is that if it was that heavy, it would be very difficult to move anyway, which likely negates the point. You might risk it if it was a bike shed or something, but if you’re storing an expensive car under it…

The power of the wind can be quite incredible, particularly when local conditions conspire, and a car port with an open side would be at high risk, in my view.

In terms of trying to avoid planning, I’d ask whether it’s best to pay a small fee (and possibly a few quid to a CAD monkey) and get the building you want, or to spend a lot of energy trying to circumvent the rules and end up with a compromised building.

Monsterlime

1,334 posts

182 months

Thursday 6th March
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I had one of these on my drive for a year - https://www.dancovershop.com/uk/product/portable-g... with a TVR in it, undergoing a restoration, up in Scotland.

It easily survived the 100mph winds we had end of Jan/ beginning of Feb. I had attached it to a metal fence on one side, and had some clamps over the other side into brick on the drive plus a lot of water weights inside and bricks and a sleeper on the cover outside.

I was very impressed with it, it held up really well and was very solid. The cover itself is very durable, thick and weighty on its own and had no damage after wind, rain and snow. There was however some condensation in there in the colder weather, so maybe a dehumidifier would be a good idea. I had attached some lights on wooden beams across the top so it was easy to work in.

It is gone now, partly because my wife hated it, but if I needed one again, I would definitely buy another.

Edit, pic on drive (from when it first went up) -


Neighbours never complained, either.

Edited by Monsterlime on Thursday 6th March 16:44

andy_ran

778 posts

209 months

Thursday 6th March
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I have one of these - Its been bloody fantastic! Maybe selling it soon as its becoming surplus to requirements

Car drives in and out like a normal garage, water tight and has circulation air system

OutInTheShed

11,570 posts

42 months

Thursday 6th March
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These tent-type things can have massive condensation problems, it they are on wet ground.
I had a boat under a tarp on a block paved drive for a while, the damp that came up through the ground was a nightmare.

Car port type structures can be a wind-up too, bloke in the village has one, swifts (or they could be swallows?) nest in it and crap all over the car for 4 months of the year.

dhutch

16,592 posts

213 months

Saturday 8th March
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andy_ran said:


I have one of these - Its been bloody fantastic! Maybe selling it soon as its becoming surplus to requirements

Car drives in and out like a normal garage, water tight and has circulation air system
Nice. What's one of those worth?

andy_ran

778 posts

209 months

Sunday 9th March
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dhutch said:
Nice. What's one of those worth?
Start at £3500 new

It is the closest I have found to a brick built garage

Simon_GH

757 posts

96 months

Sunday 9th March
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A carport (at least used to) needs planning permission but it could then be converted to a garage without any further permission. I guess the question is whether anyone around you would notice.

If you go down a temporary structure, you could always design it so the weight of the car can be used to help hold it down. It doesn’t matter too much is it wiggles when empty but you don’t really want it scuffing your pride and joy.