Which outdoor tap?

[AB]

Appreciate this may be a stupid question but I'm pretty stupid when it comes to this sort of thing and I need to buy one on my way home from work to be installed this afternoon.



Is it hard to tell from the picture or strsighforward?

Is it as simple as this?

https://www.diy.com/departments/fixthebog-professi...

Cheers

[Chumley.mouse]

https://www.screwfix.com/p/pegler-pb50-hose-union-...


I like these.

[PhilboSE]

Chumley.mouse said:

https://www.screwfix.com/p/pegler-pb50-hose-union-...


I like these.

+1

A lever handle is so much better for an outside tap, and more positive in shutting down the flow.

[The Three D Mucketeer]

Chumley.mouse said:

https://www.screwfix.com/p/pegler-pb50-hose-union-...


I like these.

+2 Exactly what I have on my outside Hot & Cold Taps

[AB]

Thanks, I hadn't actually considered that. That'll do.

[Snow and Rocks]

You get frost proof versions too if you live anywhere that gets cold.

I leave mine live all year round and no apparent ill effects despite them being uninsulated and it getting to below minus twenty on a few occasions. I picked them up locally but they're something along these lines.

https://www.waterirrigation.co.uk/hydrosure-frost-...

[_Jonesy_]

Just bear in mind that the Pegler taps don't have a double check valve built in - it's supposed to be on the inside of the house anyway, but if you don't have one it's easiest to get a tap that has an integral one. I've got this one and it does the job fine.

https://www.screwfix.com/p/essentials-outside-tap-...

Alternatively you can get Hoselok type check valves that screw on to the tap

[Simpo Two]

_Jonesy_ said:

Just bear in mind that the Pegler taps don't have a double check valve built in - it's supposed to be on the inside of the house anyway, but if you don't have one it's easiest to get a tap that has an integral one. I've got this one and it does the job fine.

https://www.screwfix.com/p/essentials-outside-tap-...

Alternatively you can get Hoselok type check valves that screw on to the tap

I see no need for a 'double check valve' or anything else that impedes the flow.

I didn't realise there were frost-proof taps, but note that any exterior piping is also likely to freeze and then perhaps burst. I unwittingly solved the problem when, after some pipe bursts because I forgot to drain the pipes down before they froze, I replaced the pipes using push-fit fittings. Now if the pipes freeze, the expanding ice inside simply pushes the fittings apart - which is my reminder to close the internal valve! - and I just push them back together.

[Hereward]

PhilboSE said:

+1

A lever handle is so much better for an outside tap...

Until your cat flicks it On as they clamber over it and you don't notice for hours

[Patio]

Chumley.mouse said:

https://www.screwfix.com/p/pegler-pb50-hose-union-...


I like these.

That's a genius idea

Can't believe I didn't think of it before

[tog]

I put in one of these a few years ago, and have a 1970s version that was fitted when the house was built. (It is a 1970s Swedish timber frame house, and the tap came with the kit.)

https://www.fmmattsson.com/garden-valves-and-taps/...

Completely frost proof, the actual valve is inside the house.

[SkinnyPete]

Is a double check valve actually needed?

In what circumstances will water from the garden hose or pressure washer, be sucked back into the house?

The flow rate of my garden tap already struggles to feed my fairly low powered pressure washer, fitting a new example without a valve might improve that.

[OutInTheShed]

SkinnyPete said:

Is a double check valve actually needed?

In what circumstances will water from the garden hose or pressure washer, be sucked back into the house?

The flow rate of my garden tap already struggles to feed my fairly low powered pressure washer, fitting a new example without a valve might improve that.

It can happen if the water co ever shut off the mains.
Which they do from time to time and don't want the slime from your guard nose.

Obviously, the hose tap would need to be open at the time so the risk is maybe minimal, but it's other people's drinking water you're messing with.

[Chrisgr31]

SkinnyPete said:

Is a double check valve actually needed?

In what circumstances will water from the garden hose or pressure washer, be sucked back into the house?

The flow rate of my garden tap already struggles to feed my fairly low powered pressure washer, fitting a new example without a valve might improve that.

I think the fear is that the other end of the hose attached to the tap is in a water butt, pond, swimming pool or whatever. There’s a fire somewhere locally the fire brigade turn up attach to a hydrant. They are then pumping as much water as they can out the system and the risk ten becomes your hose siphons the pond into the water supply.