Nail gun for veneer / panel pins

[woodypup59]

Can the crowd here recommend a nail gun for veneer / panel pins.

We have many metres of beading and architrave to pin in place.

We done the first (and smallest) section by hand, but its a bit hit and miss with 1mm pins, half of which bend, and I wonder if a machine would be more reliable.

[akirk]

If you know someone with one - borrow it - seems a bit of a cost for a one off job - even if reasonably big...

best I have used are air based (so cheap) - I have Makita ones - pin and nail - so two different sizes - just don't have a first fix one...
runs off a small stanley silent air compressor (which is very silent for an air compressor) - so you have extra costs - soon adds up...

if for a one off job - you can probably just go to screwfix and buy the cheapest...

[Lotobear]

....I'm sure I spotted an electric nailer in the aisle of dreams, Aldi, over the weekend

[OutInTheShed]

Staples are a valid answer. Often used in boatbuilding while the glue dries.

For beading and similar, I often find it's good to pre-drill the holes.
Then punch the pins home with a sharp centre punch.

[LooneyTunes]

Assume you're pinning wood to wood and after a small second fix brad nailer instead of a first fix Paslode type effort?

If the budget will run to it, the Makita 40v one (FN001) is excellent. They might do an 18v one as well?

[sparkythecat]

Ryobi nailers are well regarded even by the Milwaukee and Dewalt fanboys.
I’ve had one of their 18g nailers for a while now and can’t fault it.

[J6542]

You need a 23 gauge pin nailer. I have a 12v Milwaukee that I imported from the States but I think the Hikoki one is available here. Fairly expensive tho if you are not doing lots of work with it

[woodypup59]

Thanks all.

Food for thought.

ETA pins are nominally 1 x 20 veneer pins from Wickes. I dare say there are better quality brands but we were in a tight spot on a Sunday afternoon.

Edited by woodypup59 on Monday 24th February 19:07

[Blakeatron]

J6542 said:

You need a 23 gauge pin nailer. I have a 12v Milwaukee that I imported from the States but I think the Hikoki one is available here. Fairly expensive tho if you are not doing lots of work with it

Makita have an 18v one too, fantastic bit of kit

[Snow and Rocks]

As above, definitely worth looking at an air powered one if you already have a compressor - I have one of these and it's lovely to use and significantly cheaper and lighter than the battery powered equivalent. I don't mind the hose but you might find it annoying.

https://www.screwfix.com/p/makita-af506-50mm-first...

[Consigliere]

Without sounding daft - why is a first fix nail gun different to a second fix?

[akirk]

Consigliere said:

Without sounding daft - why is a first fix nail gun different to a second fix?

bigger bits of metal for the nails - think traditional looking nails:
first fix = nails = timber structure of your house
second fix = brad pins (look more like a cross between a pin and a nail) used to attach trim e.g. skirting board
and smaller version = pin gun = very tiny versions - often used in woodwork / modelling / etc.

[Consigliere]

akirk said:

bigger bits of metal for the nails - think traditional looking nails:
first fix = nails = timber structure of your house
second fix = brad pins (look more like a cross between a pin and a nail) used to attach trim e.g. skirting board
and smaller version = pin gun = very tiny versions - often used in woodwork / modelling / etc.

Can you get guns that do both?

[akirk]

Consigliere said:

akirk said:

bigger bits of metal for the nails - think traditional looking nails:
first fix = nails = timber structure of your house
second fix = brad pins (look more like a cross between a pin and a nail) used to attach trim e.g. skirting board
and smaller version = pin gun = very tiny versions - often used in woodwork / modelling / etc.

Can you get guns that do both?

Not that I have ever seen - they do a range of nail / pin lengths and sizes but that range is still one part of a much bigger range split across different guns…