Listed building and multiple addresses

[Shinyfings]

I’m considering buying a probate property (within my family). The property is on the land registry as two addresses under one listing - basically a front property with a door to the road and a rear property also with a door on the same road accessed via a long internal hall. The listed building register only lists one of the addresses and the arrow on their map points only to one address. There is only one Council Tax charge made against the two properties. There is little listing information publicly available.

I have asked the council, Land Registry and Listed Building folk (Historic England) if they have any idea of whether this is two properties/what is listed. However, I have a feeling that there won’t actually be an immediate answer. I just wondered if anyone else has had any dealings where it’s a little unclear what’s listed and how you resolved the issue.

The reason for interest is that if this can be two buildings again and if only one is listed then it’s a risk worth taking. If it’s all listed and the listing is simply not accurate then it’s not a good buy.

[Spurry]

Having the misfortune to live in a Listed Building, the catch-all seems to be that anything within the curtilage of the building that is listed is also subject to the same restrictions.

[Shinyfings]

Spurry said:

Having the misfortune to live in a Listed Building, the catch-all seems to be that anything within the curtilage of the building that is listed is also subject to the same restrictions.

Thanks for the reply. I had a nasty feeling that what you state would be the case even though the listing clearly only points at one building. Looks like my interest will be short lived as the cost of making the second building habitable within the restrictions of a listing won’t be happening.

[blueg33]

Shinyfings said:

I’m considering buying a probate property (within my family). The property is on the land registry as two addresses under one listing - basically a front property with a door to the road and a rear property also with a door on the same road accessed via a long internal hall. The listed building register only lists one of the addresses and the arrow on their map points only to one address. There is only one Council Tax charge made against the two properties. There is little listing information publicly available.

I have asked the council, Land Registry and Listed Building folk (Historic England) if they have any idea of whether this is two properties/what is listed. However, I have a feeling that there won’t actually be an immediate answer. I just wondered if anyone else has had any dealings where it’s a little unclear what’s listed and how you resolved the issue.

The reason for interest is that if this can be two buildings again and if only one is listed then it’s a risk worth taking. If it’s all listed and the listing is simply not accurate then it’s not a good buy.

You can find details of all listed buildings online, with a description of the building and its important features. I think I found ours via a Google search, or maybe the local authority website.

[Shinyfings]

blueg33 said:

Shinyfings said:

I’m considering buying a probate property (within my family). The property is on the land registry as two addresses under one listing - basically a front property with a door to the road and a rear property also with a door on the same road accessed via a long internal hall. The listed building register only lists one of the addresses and the arrow on their map points only to one address. There is only one Council Tax charge made against the two properties. There is little listing information publicly available.

I have asked the council, Land Registry and Listed Building folk (Historic England) if they have any idea of whether this is two properties/what is listed. However, I have a feeling that there won’t actually be an immediate answer. I just wondered if anyone else has had any dealings where it’s a little unclear what’s listed and how you resolved the issue.

The reason for interest is that if this can be two buildings again and if only one is listed then it’s a risk worth taking. If it’s all listed and the listing is simply not accurate then it’s not a good buy.

You can find details of all listed buildings online, with a description of the building and its important features. I think I found ours via a Google search, or maybe the local authority website.

I’ve found what I can but it dates from 74 when I suspect there were two addresses all part of an old time private school. At some point post 74 the two addresses have been merged to form one Land Registry listing and the Listing hasn’t been changed. I suspect I could make a plausible argument that they are two addresses but they’d probably just change the listing. The issue is the property isn’t in a place of high house values so there is limited upside to factor in any expensive listed building requirements. I will almost certainly leave it to someone else.

[TownIdiot]

It may be possible

Listed buildings have been converted to apartments etc.

Our local conservation officer was pretty easy to get hold of and straightforward about what he would and wouldn't support.

[RGG]

When our Georgian house was listed, circa 1970's the listing description amalgamated next door as well.

They also got the number of our front windows wrong.

I've never done anything about it.

I don't think is helps you, but just shows what they can "get wrong" without trying.

[a340driver]

From my experience, Once it's listed you're buggered, certainly in the Cotswolds when a man in red trousers turns up.

God forbid there's an ancient area involved. In which case expect to pay for a student to sit on there arse while the builders work their arses off digging.