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ColinM50

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2,675 posts

191 months

Saturday 11th January
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Had a new kitchen installed last spring and while we're happy with it in general, one thing really bugs us. That's the loooooong wait for hot water to arrive at the kitchen tap.

Is there some form of instantaneous boiler that I can install under the sink to provide hot water?

I don't want the old fashioned gas or electric geyser type thast my nan had, just some form of heater that can supplement the existing

TIA

Gtom

1,740 posts

148 months

Saturday 11th January
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How long is the run from the boiler to the hot tap?

Where does the pipe run? If possible, try and lag the pipework as much as possible.

Baldchap

9,178 posts

108 months

Saturday 11th January
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A Quooker boiling water tap would solve the problem. They're brilliant too. I'll not be without one these days.

MrJuice

3,770 posts

172 months

Saturday 11th January
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Baldchap said:
A Quooker boiling water tap would solve the problem. They're brilliant too. I'll not be without one these days.
Dude is asking for a substitute to the hot water from his tank/boiler. Nothing about kettle replacements asked

Sheets Tabuer

20,381 posts

231 months

Saturday 11th January
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MrJuice said:
Baldchap said:
A Quooker boiling water tap would solve the problem. They're brilliant too. I'll not be without one these days.
Dude is asking for a substitute to the hot water from his tank/boiler. Nothing about kettle replacements asked
ColinM50 said:
Is there some form of instantaneous boiler that I can install under the sink to provide hot water?
confused

theaxe

3,571 posts

238 months

Saturday 11th January
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ColinM50 said:
Is there some form of instantaneous boiler that I can install under the sink to provide hot water?
This kind of thing?

essayer

10,215 posts

210 months

Saturday 11th January
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If you have an unvented cylinder, a secondary return might be an option. This keeps water flowing round the system so it’s always available close to the taps:


Simpo Two

89,321 posts

281 months

Saturday 11th January
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The no-cost no-plumbing answer: turn the hot tap on 30 seconds before you need hot water.

MrJuice

3,770 posts

172 months

Saturday 11th January
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nuyorican said:
I believe they can dispense normal hot water too.
they can. from your tank or boiler. They dispense boiling water, carbonated water and filtered water if you have the latter two attachments

You cannot use boiling water from the quooker tank and mix it with cold and get warm. It does not work like that.

jamgy

252 posts

128 months

Saturday 11th January
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Yes you can

Quooker combi will provide hot (as opposed to boiling) water

jamgy

252 posts

128 months

Saturday 11th January
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Longer answer. Your options are:

Secondary circulation - best option. This circulates hot water form yeh cylinder, minimising the 'cold' length of pipe to draw through. I'd the works are all done though, likely mega disruption

Trace heating - an electric heating cable fixed to the pipe. Marginally less disruptive than running a secondary circulation, but not much...

Decentralise - generate hot water locally, either with a point of use water heater, quooker combi, or electric instantaneous water heater

Live with it

langy

615 posts

255 months

Saturday 11th January
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We had similar issues. Our old kitchen tap was the furthest run from the boiler, so we used to fill up bowls for washing up in the utility room. Kitchen tap would need to be running for 30-45 seconds before getting warm...

New kitchen installed in September and we opted for a Quooker combi (7 litre tank) and it's fab. Yes you get boiling hot water instantly, but more importantly we get cold, warm and hot water instantly as well.

No more trips to the utility room to get hot water. Well worth the investment, and bonus that you can ditch the kettle.

renmure

4,679 posts

240 months

Saturday 11th January
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Exactly the same situation here. It can take a minute (which feels like 5 minutes) for the hot water to flow to the kitchen sink. Plumber says it’s just the last outlet in a long system. We do have a Quooker which gets round the issue but it is frustrating.

MrJuice

3,770 posts

172 months

Saturday 11th January
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jamgy said:
Yes you can

Quooker combi will provide hot (as opposed to boiling) water
I stand corrected. Is this new?

I don't recall seeing anything about this when I bought my quooker tap at the end of 2023

jamgy

252 posts

128 months

Sunday 12th January
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MrJuice said:
I stand corrected. Is this new?

I don't recall seeing anything about this when I bought my quooker tap at the end of 2023
Relatively, I think about 12-18 months ago?

They also do a 'combi +' which I wasn't aware of

https://www.quooker.co.uk/quooker-combi-plus

This appears to be intended to work with a hot feed but gives instant hot water. It will feed in boiling water to the hot supply so you get instant hot, then when the hot water form your cylinder/combi boiler comes through it lets that take over

Sheepshanks

37,532 posts

135 months

Sunday 12th January
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ColinM50 said:
Had a new kitchen installed last spring and while we're happy with it in general, one thing really bugs us. That's the loooooong wait for hot water to arrive at the kitchen tap.

Is there some form of instantaneous boiler that I can install under the sink to provide hot water?
I'd never heard of them before, but an ex-colleague had a "Willis" (i think it's a generic name, not a brand) heater to provide instant hot water - quick look suggests it's basically a small tank and immersion heater.

I'm pretty sure he has a looped hot water system - if that's correct it doesn't make any obvious sense to me why it would need an additional heater.

Edited by Sheepshanks on Sunday 12th January 21:18

Unreal

7,429 posts

41 months

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