What weed killer strong enough to kill a hedge?
What weed killer strong enough to kill a hedge?
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Mark Lewis

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137 posts

18 months

Thursday 9th January
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I have just cleared a dense hedge from the 300 year old 3ft high wall at the front of my house.

In places the hedge, and Ivy, has worked its way in through the lime mortar and then emerges in different places so-while I can cut it right back at the ground, There are literally spots where it is emerging from within the Wall.

In short, what can I apply to the cut ends to make sure it is dead and stays dead forever. It is a wall that will never have anything growing on it again so nuclear options are fine.

Condi

18,973 posts

187 months

Thursday 9th January
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/263727116042

This is a nuclear option. If there are leaves, dilute and spray on. If you only have stems, then inject into the stem or drill a hole and put some neat chemical into the hole.

You will probably want to wait until March/April as the plant needs to be growing/active for it to work.

V10Mike

606 posts

222 months

Thursday 9th January
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Don't mess around with the dilute domestic version -get the full-strength stuff:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115733587590?_skw=gallu...

Mark Lewis

Original Poster:

137 posts

18 months

Thursday 9th January
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Condi said:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/263727116042

This is a nuclear option. If there are leaves, dilute and spray on. If you only have stems, then inject into the stem or drill a hole and put some neat chemical into the hole.

You will probably want to wait until March/April as the plant needs to be growing/active for it to work.
Cool - so for now I leave the stumps from the hedge at ground level (or poking out the wall) and the second I see any sign of them growing in the spring - inject neat into all the little stumps. Sounds easy enough, Thanks!

julianm

1,676 posts

217 months

Thursday 9th January
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I've successfully used that very stuff to kill a lot of well established ivy.
I'm afraid I talked to the b*stard ivy as I applied it.

Simpo Two

89,322 posts

281 months

Thursday 9th January
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Mark Lewis said:
Cool - so for now I leave the stumps from the hedge at ground level (or poking out the wall) and the second I see any sign of them growing in the spring - inject neat into all the little stumps. Sounds easy enough, Thanks!
Glyphosate is absorbed through the leaves and translocated to the roots, so wait until the plant is actively growing then spray the leaves.

Both products in the links above are 360g/l. What's more important is the dose rate after dilution. Simply making it twice as strong doesn't make it twice as effective.

8-P

3,018 posts

276 months

Thursday 9th January
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V10Mike said:
Don't mess around with the dilute domestic version -get the full-strength stuff:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115733587590?_skw=gallu...
Would this kill a large conifer plant?

P155flaps

612 posts

159 months

Thursday 9th January
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8-P said:
V10Mike said:
Don't mess around with the dilute domestic version -get the full-strength stuff:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115733587590?_skw=gallu...
Would this kill a large conifer plant?
Having used both ( and lots of it) Rosate36 I always find more effective at nuking than Gallup, it will literally nuke anything including a large conifer.

Cheib

24,512 posts

191 months

Thursday 9th January
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You can buy Stump Plugs to prevent re-growth. Ivy and the like can be very determined !

Simpo Two

89,322 posts

281 months

Thursday 9th January
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8-P said:
Would this kill a large conifer plant?
Glyphosate is a total herbicide - it kills all plants, though sometimes with varying degrees of efficiency depending on the plant.

P155flaps said:
Having used both ( and lots of it) Rosate36 I always find more effective at nuking than Gallup.
The ai is the same so the difference must be the formulation. Every formulation has to be approved separately.

Tecchy point - all these 'nuke' products are not legally for sale to Joe Public, but the internet has rather driven a coach and horses through that.

dmsims

7,227 posts

283 months

Friday 10th January
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Compost accelerator (Ammonium Sulphamate)

Don't use those namby pamby weedkillers smile

Belle427

10,731 posts

249 months

Friday 10th January
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dmsims said:
Compost accelerator (Ammonium Sulphamate)

Don't use those namby pamby weedkillers smile
I do use this myself but is it all its cracked up to be?
I seem to get a fair bit of regrowth on areas ive treated before and some suggest it does this, seems to rot small stumps well though.

Grande Pedro

679 posts

12 months

Friday 10th January
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Belle427 said:
dmsims said:
Compost accelerator (Ammonium Sulphamate)

Don't use those namby pamby weedkillers smile
I do use this myself but is it all its cracked up to be?
I seem to get a fair bit of regrowth on areas ive treated before and some suggest it does this, seems to rot small stumps well though.
I think I'm right in saying that ammonium sulphamate decomposes, hence its suitability as a compost accelerator. It'll kill everything but doesn't last long so other things will grow back.

Wings

5,891 posts

231 months

Friday 10th January
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I once had a similar problem to the OP, ivy growing through a dry stone wall. Since I found Gallop was not killing the ivy, I then contacted the manufacture of Gallop, who informed me that ivy has a sheen on it's leaves, which prevents any weed killer penetrating and killing ivy.

I was recommended to use a mix of salt, vinegar and hot water, applying the same regularly to the ivy roots. That advice seemed to work for me, although I still regularly treat any new signs of ivy growth.

Condi

18,973 posts

187 months

Friday 10th January
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Wings said:
I once had a similar problem to the OP, ivy growing through a dry stone wall. Since I found Gallop was not killing the ivy, I then contacted the manufacture of Gallop, who informed me that ivy has a sheen on it's leaves, which prevents any weed killer penetrating and killing ivy.

I was recommended to use a mix of salt, vinegar and hot water, applying the same regularly to the ivy roots. That advice seemed to work for me, although I still regularly treat any new signs of ivy growth.
If you inject neat gallup/roundup etc into the stems then it will kill the plant, or drill a hole and fill that with neat solution and it will do the same.

Manufacturers can't legally tell you that as they can only recommend it be used as per label (ie diluted).

raceboy

13,477 posts

296 months

Friday 10th January
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Simpo Two said:
Tecchy point - all these 'nuke' products are not legally for sale to Joe Public, but the internet has rather driven a coach and horses through that.
You have to love the 'get out of jail free card' the company I buy this from plays....
https://mistralni.co.uk/products/ammonium-sulphama...

Mistral said:
As a herbicide (outside the EU) - Ammonium Sulphamate was once considered to be particularly useful in controlling tough woody weeds, tree stumps and brambles. However in 2008 the EU removed its approval as a registered herbicide and therefore it can no longer be advertised or sold explicitly for this purpose. We therefore do not sell ammonium sulphamate for this purpose. Its availability and use as a compost accelerator is unaffected by the EUs pesticide legislation.

Mr_Megalomaniac

1,013 posts

82 months

Friday 10th January
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I originally bought this to kills spiders (obviously), except now every single living thing it has touched has perished... so, give it a whirl.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0157SW0KM/

Slow.Patrol

2,152 posts

30 months

Friday 10th January
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Rock salt

Providing you don't want anything grow in that area for a while.

chip*

1,389 posts

244 months

Friday 10th January
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Condi said:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/263727116042

This is a nuclear option. If there are leaves, dilute and spray on. If you only have stems, then inject into the stem or drill a hole and put some neat chemical into the hole.

You will probably want to wait until March/April as the plant needs to be growing/active for it to work.
Too blooming cold now, but once it warms up around Spring time, I will inject this stuff into the invasive ivy that has invaded my side fence.