Neighbour Extending Extension to boundary line - Equus :-)

[I-A]

Hi All,

A neighbour is extending an existing extension (prior to their purchase) and have taken it up to the boundary line (both properties are detached). Previously there was about a metre gap between the existing extension and the fence. This fence has now been replaced with a breeze block wall stemming from this extension.

There are no planning applications for this, according to the neighbour it all falls under PD - this doesn't sound right to me.

Which department at the council would be able to confirm if this is legal or not?

Reaching out to the forum experts, have read many interesting threads on here to date!

Thanks you

[OutInTheShed]

Planning department, councillor who is head of planning committee and Building control.

If you feel it's going to affect you adversely then I'd suggest spending money on a planning consultant.

[T1547]

I’m in no way an expert on this topic but covered it in a building surveying degree.

I can remember that you can read up on the full rules around PD here: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5d7...

And Planning Portal has good info, including whether PD is applicable in your area (not all areas qualify, for example in AONB) : https://www.planningportal.co.uk/permission/respon...

If I remember correctly then the limiting factor is eaves height should be <3m for extensions built within 2m of the boundary. Sure someone with detailed expertise will confirm though.

[smokey mow]

I-A said:

Hi All,

A neighbour is extending an existing extension (prior to their purchase) and have taken it up to the boundary line (both properties are detached). Previously there was about a metre gap between the existing extension and the fence. This fence has now been replaced with a breeze block wall stemming from this extension.

There are no planning applications for this, according to the neighbour it all falls under PD - this doesn't sound right to me.

Which department at the council would be able to confirm if this is legal or not?

Reaching out to the forum experts, have read many interesting threads on here to date!

Thanks you

Impossible to say from your description.

Is it a front side or rear extension and what are the dimensions of the extension and the original house.

Post up a fully dimensioned sketch.

[Semmelweiss]

As far as I'm aware, Equus has left this parish pasture.

[Slow.Patrol]

Building on the boundary line triggers the Party Wall Act 1996.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/prevent...

I would suggest the OP finds a Planning Consultant.

[I-A]

Thanks All - have some reading to do.

I'll see if I can sketch something up.

[SteBrown91]

I might be wrong but I don’t think you can apply PD if you are extending an existing extension, could be misinformed though

[normalbloke]

Semmelweiss said:

As far as I'm aware, Equus has left this parish pasture.

I.e, he’s left PistonHeads, not deceased.

[I-A]

SteBrown91 said:

I might be wrong but I don’t think you can apply PD if you are extending an existing extension, could be misinformed though

This is what always thought was the case.

[BoRED S2upid]

We extended under PD 10 years ago now mind but it was up to 3m single story and not up to the boundary so definitely complain to planning.

[2 sMoKiN bArReLs]

Semmelweiss said:

As far as I'm aware, Equus has left this parish pasture.

That would be a shame, clearly a very knowledgeable dude.

[Andeh1]

2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:

Semmelweiss said:

As far as I'm aware, Equus has left this parish pasture.

That would be a shame, clearly a very knowledgeable dude.

A real shame!


We need more info OP to even try and suggest something!

[Mr Whippy]

Slow.Patrol said:

Building on the boundary line triggers the Party Wall Act 1996.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/prevent...

I would suggest the OP finds a Planning Consultant.

Me too on planning consultant.

Get straight to the nub of it and take actual informed advice.

I assume via that route the council does the job rather than you wasting your life in a war of words and interpretations, with myriad stresses and neighbourly consequences.

[smokey mow]

I-A said:

SteBrown91 said:

I might be wrong but I don’t think you can apply PD if you are extending an existing extension, could be misinformed though

This is what always thought was the case.

You can, but the combined extension once built would still need to meet the PD criteria.

What you can’t do is apply the PD limits just to the new extension.

[andye30m3]

Sounds like it's been built under PD,

It's my understand though that external materials should match the existing materials of the house so an exposed blockwork wall wouldn't be acceptable.

[sfella]

Happy to bow to more knowledgeable than myself but I'm nigh on certain exposed block doesn't meant building regs due to its permeability.

Obviously building regs and planning are two totally separate departments unlikely to.l be interested in each others area but gives you two things to look into

[Tommo87]

I’d be more worrying about the fact that any roof is going to overhang your own property as that will limit the ability for any future buyer to consider their own extension when viewing.

Time to build your own temporary concrete block pillar or two right up against it, but taller, so they have a re-think early.

Edited by Tommo87 on Monday 11th November 08:32

[jfdi]

smokey mow said:

You can, but the combined extension once built would still need to meet the PD criteria.

What you can’t do is apply the PD limits just to the new extension.

^This, PD extension measurements are taken from the original house.

‘Original house’ - The term ‘original house’ means
the house as it was first built or as it stood on 1
July 1948 (if it was built before that date)

[Chrisgr31]

If you have a look at your council website or search for council name and planning enforcement you will be able to report it direct to the enforcement team. They can then investigate whether it needs planning or not.

There is guidance on permitted development here https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5d7...