Textured ceilings... urgh

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LennyM1984

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759 posts

75 months

Tuesday 5th November
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We are in the process of buying a new home that has those awful textured (stipple effect) ceilings in every single room. To make matters worse, it's a large house and so there is a huge amount of ceiling to deal with.

I'm reasonably handy with DIY but have never plastered before (owning a fibreglass race car, I have however done a huge amount of body filling!). The house has also cost a fortune and so to avoid eating up my 2025 racing funds, I am planning to tackle as much of the work as I can myself.

With this in mind, my original plan was to board and tape the ceilings (I can borrow a board lifter which will make things easier) but the more I read, the more I am beginning to doubt myself that this is the best solution.

So... what would be the easiest, most cost efficient way to rid myself of this 80s horror show? I could afford to get a plasterer in to skim them but I would really rather avoid this as a) I've seen some horrors recently from a so called professional at my sister's house and b) racing budget!

Should I learn to plaster? Should I overboard and tape? Should I never look up and just live with them?




Edited by LennyM1984 on Tuesday 5th November 14:24

wolfracesonic

7,492 posts

134 months

Tuesday 5th November
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Ideally get someone in to over board and skim. Or if you’re keen to have a go, pick the smallest, of the way room to have a practice on, emulsion it and see if you’re happy with the result.

paulwirral

3,387 posts

142 months

Tuesday 5th November
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Leave them and get used to them or overboard and skimmed by a decent plasterer .
You could teach yourself to plaster but large ceilings aren’t the place to start learning.
I am a good plasterer by the way .

ewanjp

396 posts

44 months

Tuesday 5th November
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Be aware that artex (if that's what it is) that is pre 2000 ish vintage can have abestos in it (in low quanities) so overboarding is a common solution.

James6112

5,386 posts

35 months

Tuesday 5th November
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I recently boarded my landing ceiling (after fitting a new loft hatch)
I used tapered edge board, taped & filled joints. A few times to get it dead right.
Wasn’t easy.
Also of course, I removed the coving, which trashed the top of the walls.
Escalated in traditional diy fashion!

Doing bedroom next, I’ll pay someone.

RicksAlfas

13,645 posts

251 months

Tuesday 5th November
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Have low level lamps in the rooms and don't look up.
Once daylight returns you'll be out in the garage or on the track.

LennyM1984

Original Poster:

759 posts

75 months

Tuesday 5th November
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James6112 said:
Doing bedroom next, I’ll pay someone.
From the response so far, it feels like skipping the DIY stage and going straight to the "paying someone" might be the best course of action!

Rough101

2,283 posts

82 months

Tuesday 5th November
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I just have plasterers skim over it, some have been OK for 20 years now, one fell off the next day as well, but a different bonding agent was applied and I think someone had painted that one with vinyl silk.

R6tty

389 posts

22 months

Tuesday 5th November
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I've got a plasterer mate who recently did my daughter's flat. He just PVA's first then skim. Two bed flat, two days plus £60 gear. No mess. I dodn't recommend learning to plaster and starting with a complete house of ceilings!

AlexGSi2000

397 posts

201 months

Tuesday 5th November
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Recently had similar done on my current house (built in the 80s)

Had two skims over the top of the existing, no need to overboard. I coated with febond blue grit first.
Wasnt confident with the febond at first as I was able to peel it off quite easily, however its all held (touch wood) for over a year.

The plasterers that did the work have also worked on Jeremy Clarkson's properties in the past. Felt it necessary to share that info, given that this is PH after all.

Simon_GH

397 posts

87 months

Tuesday 5th November
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I’d live with it. You don’t generally spend much time looking at the ceilings.

LooneyTunes

7,549 posts

165 months

Tuesday 5th November
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LennyM1984 said:
With this in mind, my original plan was to board and tape the ceilings (I can borrow a board lifter which will make things easier) but the more I read, the more I am beginning to doubt myself that this is the best solution.

So... what would be the easiest, most cost efficient way to rid myself of this 80s horror show? I could afford to get a plasterer in to skim them but I would really rather avoid this as a) I've seen some horrors recently from a so called professional at my sister's house and b) racing budget!

Should I learn to plaster? Should I overboard and tape? Should I never look up and just live with them?
This for a while.

If you do borrow a board lifter, make sure it's a proper one. A £150 ebay cheapie with its single wire will be OK until it isn't... might never happen, but I'd rather not be stood under one if it were to give way.

sospan

2,591 posts

229 months

Tuesday 5th November
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Get a good plasterer to do it.
We had a ceiling redone by a builder during alteratioons. As it was old Artex he first used a sealant to cover it then replastered it just in case it was the asbestos stuff. Done 7 years ago and still looking great.
Choice was leave it or get it done. The seal and plaster method chosen instead of re-boarding.
Plastering looks easy when done by a GOOD pro but it's not something to just try your luck, even after a small test area trying to learn.

Griffith4ever

4,752 posts

42 months

Tuesday 5th November
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Had my artex ceiling skimmed directly over. Plasterer said, "no guarantees". It was still up there 9 years later (moved now)

bennno

12,699 posts

276 months

Tuesday 5th November
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Scrape off high points, blue grit and plaster over, we paid between £160 and £320 dependent on the size of the ceiling.

Blue grit must go off for at least 24 hours before plastering over.

dba7108

522 posts

175 months

Tuesday 5th November
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Had our whole house done years ago. Chap came in with a big scraper. Scraped it off then skimped it.

Cold

15,557 posts

97 months

Tuesday 5th November
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I was faced with a similar dilemma this time last year. I moved back into the house I initially bought some 30 years ago as a (then) new build.

It's a typically sized 4 bed family home with twelve ceilings in total and they all had the mini stalactite effect artex finish plus coving (which remains). I employed a local plasterer to smooth it all over. There were two of them, one guy went round prepping every ceiling by raking off the longer bits and slapping some gloop on. He was followed room to room by the plasterer who has made the finish mirror smooth.

It took them just over a week (Wednesday to the next Thursday, not including the weekend) but they had the great advantage of the house being completely empty and me not being too fussed about the flooring/walls because I intended to decorate/renew everything.

Total cost was £2500 which I thought was more than reasonable for the job.

ChocolateFrog

28,574 posts

180 months

Tuesday 5th November
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Just leave it for a year or two.

Give them a fresh coat of paint and get someone else to do it when you've got a bit of spare budget.

OutInTheShed

9,298 posts

33 months

Tuesday 5th November
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ewanjp said:
Be aware that artex (if that's what it is) that is pre 2000 ish vintage can have abestos in it (in low quanities) so overboarding is a common solution.
Pretty sure that '2000 date is way out, as I researched this in the late 90s, and the 'no asbestos' date was well before then.
I don't have the info any more.

There were however other brands of gunge applied to ceilings. I worked in a DIY place in the 80s.

So of this stuff can be removed with a steamer.
Some even comes off if you just spray it with water and scrape it, once the paint is broken.
Which is only any use if the surface left behind is repairable.

It could be worse, I had a house with this muck on walls!

mikeiow

6,202 posts

137 months

Tuesday 5th November
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dba7108 said:
Had our whole house done years ago. Chap came in with a big scraper. Scraped it off then skimped it.
Ours was worse - the scrolled type of artex eek

We had the downstairs all done during a renovation some years ago - the plasterers went over each ceiling three times - knock off the worst of the spikey bits, skim then smooth. Arms like gorillas - money worth paying!

I still had to paint the buggers once they had dried - if you can, find some plaster that finishes white!!