Biometric Front Door Entry - Any Thoughts?
Discussion
Victim: 'Alexa! Unlock the door'
Alexa: 'Shuffling music by the Doors'.
Victim: 'Alexa, open the door!!!'
Alexa: 'Playing Open The Door by LongestSoloEver'.
Victim: 'Hello is that the 24 hour emergency locksmith? When can you get here with a new lock and replacement door frame?'
The Yale keypad locks seem to work a reasonable amount of the time but I think I'd run a mile from anything that claims to be 'smart'.
Alexa: 'Shuffling music by the Doors'.
Victim: 'Alexa, open the door!!!'
Alexa: 'Playing Open The Door by LongestSoloEver'.
Victim: 'Hello is that the 24 hour emergency locksmith? When can you get here with a new lock and replacement door frame?'
The Yale keypad locks seem to work a reasonable amount of the time but I think I'd run a mile from anything that claims to be 'smart'.
It's a funny one really. I've worked in loads of places which require swipecard access to enter the building, or access different areas inside. And not once has there been any failure, breach in security, someone locked in or out. Yet when you start talking about anything other than the standard old fashioned key in the lock for a domestic situation, everyone (including myself) immediately jumps to thinking of the worst case scenario.
Personally I wouldn't, I think it's technology for the sake of it, but can see the advantage for someone with more specific needs. And it's probably still too niche for people to specifically target, unlike for example keyless entry on cars.
Personally I wouldn't, I think it's technology for the sake of it, but can see the advantage for someone with more specific needs. And it's probably still too niche for people to specifically target, unlike for example keyless entry on cars.
Exact same thread in parallel
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Planning on fingerprint for backup and iPhone as main key on my new build.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Planning on fingerprint for backup and iPhone as main key on my new build.
Zetec-S said:
It's a funny one really. I've worked in loads of places which require swipecard access to enter the building, or access different areas inside. And not once has there been any failure, breach in security, someone locked in or out. Yet when you start talking about anything other than the standard old fashioned key in the lock for a domestic situation, everyone (including myself) immediately jumps to thinking of the worst case scenario.
Personally I wouldn't, I think it's technology for the sake of it, but can see the advantage for someone with more specific needs. And it's probably still too niche for people to specifically target, unlike for example keyless entry on cars.
No one cares if they can't get into their office. Besides, some slacker will eventually waddle out for a fag. Personally I wouldn't, I think it's technology for the sake of it, but can see the advantage for someone with more specific needs. And it's probably still too niche for people to specifically target, unlike for example keyless entry on cars.
DonkeyApple said:
Zetec-S said:
It's a funny one really. I've worked in loads of places which require swipecard access to enter the building, or access different areas inside. And not once has there been any failure, breach in security, someone locked in or out. Yet when you start talking about anything other than the standard old fashioned key in the lock for a domestic situation, everyone (including myself) immediately jumps to thinking of the worst case scenario.
Personally I wouldn't, I think it's technology for the sake of it, but can see the advantage for someone with more specific needs. And it's probably still too niche for people to specifically target, unlike for example keyless entry on cars.
No one cares if they can't get into their office. Besides, some slacker will eventually waddle out for a fag. Personally I wouldn't, I think it's technology for the sake of it, but can see the advantage for someone with more specific needs. And it's probably still too niche for people to specifically target, unlike for example keyless entry on cars.
Can I just add to my opening post that there is a difference between;
A Fingerprint Lock
and
A Smart Lock
The first one is pretty simple tech nowadays and the banks etc are quite happy for you to use your fingerprint to access your accounts etc as are the likes of Apple, Samsung et all to access your mobile. It's also superior to simple key locks where the keys can be stolen, lost and/or easily duplicated. They come with keys anyway so if they fail you can still get in. You can also set up the fingerprint recognition so that you have your family able to gain entry without having to issue keys to them all.
The second one is, to my mind, more problematic as it can be used by Alexa and PC's etc as so is likely a little more vulnerable.
I can't see simple key locks being the standard in 25 years time. We all have Air Fryers right?
A Fingerprint Lock
and
A Smart Lock
The first one is pretty simple tech nowadays and the banks etc are quite happy for you to use your fingerprint to access your accounts etc as are the likes of Apple, Samsung et all to access your mobile. It's also superior to simple key locks where the keys can be stolen, lost and/or easily duplicated. They come with keys anyway so if they fail you can still get in. You can also set up the fingerprint recognition so that you have your family able to gain entry without having to issue keys to them all.
The second one is, to my mind, more problematic as it can be used by Alexa and PC's etc as so is likely a little more vulnerable.
I can't see simple key locks being the standard in 25 years time. We all have Air Fryers right?
Zetec-S said:
It's a funny one really. I've worked in loads of places which require swipecard access to enter the building, or access different areas inside. And not once has there been any failure, breach in security, someone locked in or out. Yet when you start talking about anything other than the standard old fashioned key in the lock for a domestic situation, everyone (including myself) immediately jumps to thinking of the worst case scenario.
Personally I wouldn't, I think it's technology for the sake of it, but can see the advantage for someone with more specific needs. And it's probably still too niche for people to specifically target, unlike for example keyless entry on cars.
On the other hand more than once I've had to go back to a hotel reception because the swipe card hasn't worked. Also I've never been anywhere with a swipe system during a power cut, how does entry\exit work then?Personally I wouldn't, I think it's technology for the sake of it, but can see the advantage for someone with more specific needs. And it's probably still too niche for people to specifically target, unlike for example keyless entry on cars.
It might be worth checking with your insurer to ensure they will continue to provide cover should you fit some form of electronics smart lock.
Also - do these locks have battery backup? What happens if you need to gain entry during a power cut?
Most offices I've worked at that have electronics locks would default to open in the event of a power cut - one would hope domestic locks don't do that lol.
Also - do these locks have battery backup? What happens if you need to gain entry during a power cut?
Most offices I've worked at that have electronics locks would default to open in the event of a power cut - one would hope domestic locks don't do that lol.
Sorry - have to post this -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwPtcqcqz00
The guy who has a smart house, then goes to the dentist and can't get his house to listen to him..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwPtcqcqz00
The guy who has a smart house, then goes to the dentist and can't get his house to listen to him..
My concern would be the level of security incorporated by the company that makes the fingerprint reader.
Use of fingerprint readers on smartphones is “tested” by millions every day; if a flaw is found it will be run up the flagpole quite quickly. Can the same be said for a small company making a fingerprint lock? Will they continue to support the inevitable app that’s required to add and delete fingerprints?
And will the fingerprint reader be exposed to the rain? Or what happens if you have sweaty hands when you’ve been out for a run etc?
Use of fingerprint readers on smartphones is “tested” by millions every day; if a flaw is found it will be run up the flagpole quite quickly. Can the same be said for a small company making a fingerprint lock? Will they continue to support the inevitable app that’s required to add and delete fingerprints?
And will the fingerprint reader be exposed to the rain? Or what happens if you have sweaty hands when you’ve been out for a run etc?
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