Hot water in cold water tank in loft

Hot water in cold water tank in loft

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Cabbage Patch

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111 posts

94 months

Saturday 19th October
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I’ve just noticed that the cold water taps on the bath and basin have warm water coming from them. The cold taps elsewhere in the house are cold. I think these are fed directly from the mains. I’ve checked the cold water tank in the loft and this has warm water in it.

The water / central heating system is gas powered, vented(?) and I have a hot water cylinder. Immersion heater as a back up, but this is switched off and in any case doesn’t work.

A quick google throws up possibilities such as a cracked heating coil in the cylinder, blocked valves and faulty mixer taps. I do know that the shower has a faulty thermostatic mixer as it’s not been very controllable for a while. Checking the shower now I see it has the same problem as the bath and basin as it has hot water when just cold is selected. I’d thought this was just an inconvenience and that it only affected the shower, but could this be the cause of the problem?

Aluminati

2,755 posts

65 months

Saturday 19th October
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Where is the vent pipe for the heating run to ?

Cabbage Patch

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111 posts

94 months

Saturday 19th October
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Now you’re asking. I’m not sure. Would it be to the cold water tank in the loft?

Cabbage Patch

Original Poster:

111 posts

94 months

Saturday 19th October
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The heating isn’t on at the moment. As far as I can see the three way valve is working. It was replaced within the last year or so.

ATG

21,319 posts

279 months

Saturday 19th October
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Err ... to heat the cold water tank appreciably you must be dumping a lot of hot water into it from somewhere. I'm no plumber, but I've seen systems where the vent pipe from the hot water cylinder would empty back into the cold water tank, but the cylinder is usually fed from the tank by gravity so you'd never get a huge flow into the cold tank that way, surely?

If the heat exchanger in the hot water cylinder had cracked, then water from the primary circuit (at least initially loaded with rust inhibitor, rust and gunk) would be mixing with the water in the tank and coming out the taps. Nice. I suppose if the primary circuit was somehow refilling itself from a mains pressure supply, that would allow a load of water to get ejected into the cold tank in the loft. But that doesn't sound very likely.

JuanCarlosFandango

8,258 posts

78 months

Saturday 19th October
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Also not sure the cold taps in the bathroom would be fed from the attic?

stevensdrs

3,227 posts

207 months

Saturday 19th October
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Sounds like the hot water cylinder is venting into the cold water tank. Easy to check if there is a pipe flowing into the cold water tank above the water line.

James6112

5,390 posts

35 months

Saturday 19th October
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The thermostatic mixer idea is a good one.
Put the shower one on cold only, does the hot pipe get hot/flow?
I had the opposite once, a mixer, cold being drawn into the hot.
Making the hot rubbish throughout the house!

Cabbage Patch

Original Poster:

111 posts

94 months

Saturday 19th October
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Taps affected definitely fed from the tank in the loft. The water in the tank was pretty warm so there certainly must be a lot of hot getting in there somehow.

I've played around with the shower mixer, worked it back and forward, tapped it etc. The hot water is switched on and the cold has returned to normal. I’ll pick up a new shower mixer bar in the morning, fit that, and then see if it’s sorted. If not I’ll at least have fixed the dodgy thermostatic valve I should have looked at ages ago, and call a plumber.