Upstairs Bay Window Cracks n plaster

Upstairs Bay Window Cracks n plaster

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g7jhp

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7,000 posts

245 months

Sunday 13th October
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We have cracks at either end of our upstairs bay window below the window.

The plaster is blown at the just below the window of each crack.

We had UPVC windows put in circa 2015.

There are no cracks downstairs.

So it will need to be repaired, plastered and re-papered.

Just not sure the best route to get it fixed.

What would you do?

Structural engineer (or is that overkill?)

Builder or plasterer?

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J6542

2,055 posts

51 months

Sunday 13th October
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Best guess is that the downstairs bay was structural. And what has replaced it wasn’t and it’s sunk.

J6542

2,055 posts

51 months

Sunday 13th October
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Any outside pics?

g7jhp

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245 months

Sunday 13th October
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J6542 said:
Any outside pics?
There's no obvious cracks and it's a tiled bay.


smokey mow

1,108 posts

207 months

Sunday 13th October
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J6542 said:
Best guess is that the downstairs bay was structural. And what has replaced it wasn’t and it’s sunk.
My thoughts to. The upper bay has been allowed to drop due to a change in its support from below, probably due to a lack of lintels over the new ground floor windows. The shape of the crack suggests the bay has rotated and is slowly tearing itself from the front of the house.

Call a structural engineer or your insurers.

Ham_and_Jam

2,567 posts

104 months

Sunday 13th October
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Time is ticking if you had a 10 year guarantee.

g7jhp

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Sunday 13th October
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Ham_and_Jam said:
Time is ticking if you had a 10 year guarantee.
Yes dug it out and it's still current, so will contact the insurers.

nute

756 posts

114 months

Sunday 13th October
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If the outside of the bay is tiled any movement won't be immediately obvious. Roughly how old is the house?

What is the detail at the top of the bay, does it run into the eaves or does the roof line follow the shape of the bay. Have a look outside at ground level at the junction between the bay and the external walls of the house - any sign of cracking?. Which way do the first floor joists run, parallel to the front of the house or perpendicular and out into the bay?

When the new d/g went in what came out? Were there substantial timbers at each external angle? What's gone back in - is it all just uPVC extrusion or is there some form of strengthening within the extrusion at the changes of direction? Was the contractor FENSA registered? Do the ground and first floor windows in the bay open and close correctly or are they starting to bind?

Little Lofty

3,484 posts

158 months

Sunday 13th October
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If both bays were timber and are now upvc I would think your bay is now held up by plastic rather than substantial timber posts. Those are more than superficial cracks so definitely needs further investigation.