Panicking about lead paint...

Panicking about lead paint...

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Rusty_

Original Poster:

126 posts

87 months

Sunday 29th September
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Hi all,

I was tidying up my outhouse earlier. The building is very old and has clearly been painted inside multiple times over the years.

Got all our stuff out and gave it a good sweep. I also brushed the walls down as they looked very dusty.

Only after doing so did it occur to me that the flaky paint on the walls was probably lead!

All my brushing obviously created a lot of dust and I was exposed to it (no mask, obviously) for 15 mins or so.

I'm now freaking out about it. Does anyone know much about lead poisoning, and what should I do? Visit the GP? Get a test, etc?

Cheers all.


Edited by Rusty_ on Sunday 29th September 17:00


Edited by Rusty_ on Sunday 29th September 17:00

Rough101

2,282 posts

82 months

Sunday 29th September
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I believe you’d need to sand it to get lead dust, I could be wrong.

nuyorican

1,779 posts

109 months

Sunday 29th September
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You can get inexpensive test kits which should at least put your mind at ease. Or not.

Snow and Rocks

2,411 posts

34 months

Sunday 29th September
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If a quick sweep down of a room containing lead paint was enough to cause major issues, there would be a lot of people keeling over all over the land and there really isn't.

Nothing you can do about it now in any case so don't worry, you'll be fine (probably!).

Promised Land

4,943 posts

216 months

Sunday 29th September
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Snow and Rocks said:
If a quick sweep down of a room containing lead paint was enough to cause major issues, there would be a lot of people keeling over all over the land and there really isn't.

Nothing you can do about it now in any case so don't worry, you'll be fine (probably!).
Don't tell him if he is in an old house the main water pipe could be lead as well, drinking water from a lead pipe, oh dear.

On a serious point, I knew a plumber who did all the lead work on jobs all his life, Lead Bob was his name, at snap time he would eat his sandwiches with his had in the sandwich bag like a glove so his fingers didn't touch the bread, cancer still got him from working with lead all of his life, fumes I think was the cause. But that is someone working with it 30-40 years not just looking at it for a minute.

Rusty_

Original Poster:

126 posts

87 months

Sunday 29th September
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Thanks for the replies. I was cacking myself somewhat, but it appears to be a more of a hazard
in repeated exposure rather than what I did.

As has been mentioned, not exactly much I can do about it now anyway!


trev540

256 posts

216 months

Sunday 29th September
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i doubt it would have been lead paint on the walls. That was used on woodwork and exteriorers mainley, unless your house was oilpainted inside on the walls. Distemper was used for walls and ceilings until the middle of the 1960,s then emulsion took over ,more concern would be early artex with asbestos in it.

Rusty_

Original Poster:

126 posts

87 months

Sunday 29th September
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Cheers. It is an outbuilding with painted interior walls. Basically just a brick built shed that would have been used as a toilet back in the day.

Those walls have had a fair few coats over the years!

Although looking at it again, it's deteriorated and faded paint, but not too bad on the flaking side.

I would buy a test, but I don't think I want to know. Just hoping that short term potential exposure wont turn me into the elephant man!

CoolHands

19,435 posts

202 months

Sunday 29th September
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I used to worry about asbestos after drilling a hole in dodgy board. I’m still here! But don’t worry about it - imagine the workers that worked with it every day. Anyway I think it just makes your brain development retarded so as long as you weren’t licking it you’ll be fine wink

nuyorican

1,779 posts

109 months

Sunday 29th September
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Rusty_ said:
I would buy a test, but I don't think I want to know. Just hoping that short term potential exposure wont turn me into the elephant man!
You'll be fine. Just don't let that Boon fella exploit you for cash.

chris1roll

1,738 posts

251 months

Monday 30th September
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Sure you'll be fine.

If you really want to freak yourself out, look up Paris Green, or Sheeles Green

55palfers

6,001 posts

171 months

Monday 30th September
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If it was n outdoor privvy, you may find the flaking paint is actually a product called "distemper"

Commonly made with chalk, but could be white lead. If you do plan on sanding it off wear a mask.


Rusty_

Original Poster:

126 posts

87 months

Wednesday 2nd October
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Hi all,

Thank you for your responses. It's been a few days and I'm not yet a drooling vegetable. I dont think.

I'm going to be a brave boy and get it painted, just in case.

Would it be sufficient to slap some masonry paint straight over it? And could anyone recommend a mask?

Cheers


Hoink

1,454 posts

165 months

Wednesday 2nd October
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Rusty_ said:
Hi all,

Thank you for your responses. It's been a few days and I'm not yet a drooling vegetable. I dont think.

I'm going to be a brave boy and get it painted, just in case.

Would it be sufficient to slap some masonry paint straight over it? And could anyone recommend a mask?

Cheers
I'm not sure if it's correct but I have similar in the garage. I'm painting with peel stop and then covering in another layer or two of paint.

Rusty_

Original Poster:

126 posts

87 months

Thursday 3rd October
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Thanks. I spoke to a chap locally who is a decorator and he said that slapping on masonry will be fine once the loose bits have been scraped off. Will need to get a mask and some overalls and get cracking.

dhutch

15,236 posts

204 months

Thursday 3rd October
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We have lead paint in all our woodwork/gloss and I try fairly hard to keep in contained when redecorating, including mainly scraping the top poorly adhered layer off and then giving a light sand just for key rather than going down to the underlying paint. Fill any low spots rather than sanding down to them etc.

But as said, while it's to be taken seriously, the exposure you describe feels unlike to cause major issues.

You do very slowly remove lead from your body I understand, including through your finger nails!

mikey_b

2,120 posts

52 months

Thursday 3rd October
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Romans used to add lead to wine and other foods, because certain compounds of it are good sweeteners. Until relatively recently, most water pipes were made of lead. Lead powders were used in make-up, to be smeared straight on the face. Lead is used for fishing weights and handled regularly, despite being a soft metal that wears down with contact. Lead was used in solder until fairly recently, to be melted just a few inches from where the user is breathing in any vapours. Lead was added to petrol for about 80 years, and pumped out the exhausts in large quantites into the air we all breathed. Lead is still used on roofs today, folded down and then welded together in sheets to form complex and long-lasting waterproof joints.

Do any of these things for long enough, and you will suffer consequences. Clearing muck and a bit of loose paint out of an old shed is a very long way from that. So chill out - you aren't going to die, nor are you going to suffer terrible nervous system or brain damage.

Rusty_

Original Poster:

126 posts

87 months

Thursday 3rd October
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I appreciate the comments, chaps. It's really helped and I'm seeing things with clarity again now, so thank you.

Masks and overalls purchased, along with some masonry paint. Will get it all encapsulated tomorrow and will forget about it.

Cheers!

Simpo Two

87,026 posts

272 months

Thursday 3rd October
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mikey_b said:
Romans used to add lead to wine and other foods, because certain compounds of it are good sweeteners. Until relatively recently, most water pipes were made of lead. Lead powders were used in make-up, to be smeared straight on the face. Lead is used for fishing weights and handled regularly, despite being a soft metal that wears down with contact. Lead was used in solder until fairly recently, to be melted just a few inches from where the user is breathing in any vapours. Lead was added to petrol for about 80 years, and pumped out the exhausts in large quantites into the air we all breathed. Lead is still used on roofs today, folded down and then welded together in sheets to form complex and long-lasting waterproof joints.

Do any of these things for long enough, and you will suffer consequences. Clearing muck and a bit of loose paint out of an old shed is a very long way from that. So chill out - you aren't going to die, nor are you going to suffer terrible nervous system or brain damage.
Voice of reason. Lead is a cumulative poison, like mercury, not something that will kill you from a single sniff.