Painter and Decorator Costs

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bitchstewie

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Saturday 28th September
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And onto the next project biggrin

It's a pretty normal small 3 bed detached and ideally I think I'd want doorframes and bannisters stripped/sanded back and re-painted possibly same with skirting boards and ceilings then we're into the number of rooms to be stripped back and re-painted or re-wallpapered.

Don't think there's any horror shows to deal with just needs a refresh.

I know that like anything this is obviously "it depends" but before getting a troop of people in to quote I am curious what sort of numbers other people have seen.

Presume this sort of thing is typically quoted on days needed?

Haven't had a quote on this sort of thing for years so no idea what to expect these days.

BoRED S2upid

20,319 posts

247 months

Saturday 28th September
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Just done a 2 bed flat which hadn’t been touched for 20+ years so needed every surface from to to bottom. 2 weeks work £3000 and gallons of paint!

nuyorican

1,779 posts

109 months

Saturday 28th September
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To give you into a rough idea, count how many rooms, times by 2.5 days times £200.

But ‘it depends’ is the correct answer.

Mr established time-served running a business here might expect £400 a day. Or Mr fresh off the small boat FB Marketplace might want £50…

Edited by nuyorican on Saturday 28th September 13:54

bitchstewie

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55,081 posts

217 months

Saturday 28th September
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nuyorican said:
To give you into a rough idea, count how many rooms, times by 2.5 days times £200.

But ‘it depends’ is the correct answer.

Mr established time-served running a business here might expect £400 a day. Or Mr fresh off the small boat FB Marketplace might want £50…

Edited by nuyorican on Saturday 28th September 13:54
Thanks and that's the kind of rule of thumb just as a very basic start point that's useful.

Don't want to get someone through the door to find they want £5K to do a small dining room the bannisters and a couple of bedrooms etc. before factoring in any materials.

I'd also prefer not to be getting tons of quotes so having some way to know what might be typical helps.

Hope that makes sense as I fully get the "piece of string" element of this smile

bennno

12,696 posts

276 months

Saturday 28th September
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bhstewie said:
And onto the next project biggrin

It's a pretty normal small 3 bed detached and ideally I think I'd want doorframes and bannisters stripped/sanded back and re-painted possibly same with skirting boards and ceilings then we're into the number of rooms to be stripped back and re-painted or re-wallpapered.

Don't think there's any horror shows to deal with just needs a refresh.

I know that like anything this is obviously "it depends" but before getting a troop of people in to quote I am curious what sort of numbers other people have seen.

Presume this sort of thing is typically quoted on days needed?

Haven't had a quote on this sort of thing for years so no idea what to expect these days.
Working around you, or empty, with carpets to protect or bare floors.

Anything from 10-20k


LooneyTunes

7,544 posts

165 months

Saturday 28th September
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bennno said:
bhstewie said:
And onto the next project biggrin

It's a pretty normal small 3 bed detached and ideally I think I'd want doorframes and bannisters stripped/sanded back and re-painted possibly same with skirting boards and ceilings then we're into the number of rooms to be stripped back and re-painted or re-wallpapered.

Don't think there's any horror shows to deal with just needs a refresh.

I know that like anything this is obviously "it depends" but before getting a troop of people in to quote I am curious what sort of numbers other people have seen.

Presume this sort of thing is typically quoted on days needed?

Haven't had a quote on this sort of thing for years so no idea what to expect these days.
Working around you, or empty, with carpets to protect or bare floors.

Anything from 10-20k
10-20k???

To basic rental spec a typical 3-bed semi costs me less than £2500, and to a higher standard a nice 4 bed detached was £5k inc materials. I do give a fair bit of work so they’ll be lower end prices.

Door frames and skirting stripped/sanded would add time and cost, wallpaper takes time (especially if there are long drops and complex patterns) but I’d be surprised if he hit £10k and should be nowhere near £20k! Unless of course, it’s a very expensive area of the country.

bitchstewie

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Saturday 28th September
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LooneyTunes said:
10-20k???

To basic rental spec a typical 3-bed semi costs me less than £2500, and to a higher standard a nice 4 bed detached was £5k inc materials. I do give a fair bit of work so they’ll be lower end prices.

Door frames and skirting stripped/sanded would add time and cost, wallpaper takes time (especially if there are long drops and complex patterns) but I’d be surprised if he hit £10k and should be nowhere near £20k! Unless of course, it’s a very expensive area of the country.
It's just a small 3 bed detached in the Midlands and I'm not including wallpaper/paint as I know that'll vary massively - it's not the Ritz biggrin

If someone told me they wanted £2K to sand some skirting I'd just keep the existing skirting as it's not bad enough to justify that sort of cost.

It's things like "10-20k" that are why I posted the thread as I see stuff like that and wonder if I'm out of touch or just where on earth that sort of figure comes from confused

Djtemeka

1,871 posts

199 months

Saturday 28th September
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Define stripping back…

Back to bare wood?

Paint thereafter?

Back to bare wood would cost a fking fortune. .



Basic sand and fill to get rid of the lumps and bumps? More normal
Price

bennno

12,696 posts

276 months

Saturday 28th September
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LooneyTunes said:
bennno said:
bhstewie said:
And onto the next project biggrin

It's a pretty normal small 3 bed detached and ideally I think I'd want doorframes and bannisters stripped/sanded back and re-painted possibly same with skirting boards and ceilings then we're into the number of rooms to be stripped back and re-painted or re-wallpapered.

Don't think there's any horror shows to deal with just needs a refresh.

I know that like anything this is obviously "it depends" but before getting a troop of people in to quote I am curious what sort of numbers other people have seen.

Presume this sort of thing is typically quoted on days needed?

Haven't had a quote on this sort of thing for years so no idea what to expect these days.
Working around you, or empty, with carpets to protect or bare floors.

Anything from 10-20k
10-20k???

To basic rental spec a typical 3-bed semi costs me less than £2500, and to a higher standard a nice 4 bed detached was £5k inc materials. I do give a fair bit of work so they’ll be lower end prices.

Door frames and skirting stripped/sanded would add time and cost, wallpaper takes time (especially if there are long drops and complex patterns) but I’d be surprised if he hit £10k and should be nowhere near £20k! Unless of course, it’s a very expensive area of the country.
Re-wallpapered was used suggesting strip off prep for paint or re wallpapering.

Stripped or sanded back woodwork as opposed to rubbed down and re-painted makes a difference.

All in white versus colours on walls makes a difference.

As before working around residents and protecting carpets, or empty with free access

Lots of variables - a lot depends on current condition - hence range.

nuyorican

1,779 posts

109 months

Saturday 28th September
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I’m guessing that as OP wants the woodwork painted again then he just means a bit of a key/sand rather than taking back to bare wood with a view to staining or varnishing etc?

LooneyTunes

7,544 posts

165 months

Saturday 28th September
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You’ve got to watch trades as some will take the piss if they think they can (especially if they think you don’t know how much work is involved).

We have two painters we use, one who really goes at it and blitzes them in a couple of days (his prices are the ones I mentioned) and one who goes slow but does a superb job and charges well under £200/day.

Both of the lads we use can do a much better job than I can, but painting tends to be one of the cheaper trades. If it was 10-20k to prep and paint a 3-bed I’d be doing them myself!

Go on local recommendation if you can, and (as with all trades) be wary of anyone who can start too soon. Painters and decorators, if they’re any good, will have a decent pipeline of work.

LooneyTunes

7,544 posts

165 months

Saturday 28th September
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bennno said:
Re-wallpapered was used suggesting strip off prep for paint or re wallpapering.
Yes, but how long does it take to strip, fill, and sand a typical room in a 3-bedder? With a pro-spec stripper, it takes much less time than people would expect if they’d only used a consumer grade stripper (albeit those people probably wouldn’t bother with as much filling and sanding)…

bennno

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276 months

Saturday 28th September
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LooneyTunes said:
You’ve got to watch trades as some will take the piss if they think they can (especially if they think you don’t know how much work is involved).

We have two painters we use, one who really goes at it and blitzes them in a couple of days (his prices are the ones I mentioned) and one who goes slow but does a superb job and charges well under £200/day.

Both of the lads we use can do a much better job than I can, but painting tends to be one of the cheaper trades. If it was 10-20k to prep and paint a 3-bed I’d be doing them myself!

Go on local recommendation if you can, and (as with all trades) be wary of anyone who can start too soon. Painters and decorators, if they’re any good, will have a decent pipeline of work.
Agreed, we got quoted >15k for last 3 projects, so did it ourselves, not difficult, but decent paint is always way more than you’d expect.


bitchstewie

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217 months

Saturday 28th September
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If someone said £10k more to work around me I’d fk off on holiday somewhere expensive before I gave it then biggrin

Correct on the woodwork I don’t know the exact term but just sand or prime or key it enough to paint it and not have it look like it has four layers of paint layered up on it.

LooneyTunes

7,544 posts

165 months

Saturday 28th September
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bennno said:
Agreed, we got quoted >15k for last 3 projects, so did it ourselves, not difficult, but decent paint is always way more than you’d expect.
We have a dulux trade account, and really like their paint. Have done the odd house and new room/building when necessary. I reckon you often save a coat (and associated labour) vs the consumer stuff.

The trick, if you DIY, is to buy the right kit. A proper set of poles and deep roller scuttles was a revelation.

My cutting in is crap compared to the pros and I hate mist coating new plaster…

MOMACC

354 posts

44 months

Saturday 28th September
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We are having our kitchen / diner, hallway, stairs and landing done including ceilings no woodwork for £1000.

It's 2 days work at most.

It seems expensive compared to previous work but I just can't be arsed to do the high walls and ceilings.

In reality you need to gauge the how many days work there is and multiply it by an agreeable day rate plus materials

bennno

12,696 posts

276 months

Saturday 28th September
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LooneyTunes said:
My cutting in is crap compared to the pros and I hate mist coating new plaster…
No nonsense breathable bare plaster paint is the answer…..

clockworks

6,111 posts

152 months

Sunday 29th September
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bennno said:
No nonsense breathable bare plaster paint is the answer…..
I agree that it was good stuff, but they seem to have stopped making it.

PhilboSE

4,745 posts

233 months

Sunday 29th September
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Yeah the reviews for bare plaster paint dropped off a cliff a while back and then it stopped being available. No biggie, just back to using a mist coat.

I have recently dine 6 rooms of bare plaster. Some leftover Dulux PBW made an excellent mist coat. Wickes own brand PBW was utter garbage for both mist and finish. Ultra cheap Albany PBW from Brewers made an excellent mist coat and will be my go-to now for this.

LooneyTunes

7,544 posts

165 months

Sunday 29th September
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Crown trade paint from the big sheds was what I used recently for mist. Often on special offer, utter garbage as proper paint, but seemed to work fine as mist.