Have you moved to an area and demanded change?
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Over the years, we have all seen cases where someone has moved somewhere and then lobbied (usually the local council) to change the local area. Examples include:
Moving near to a pub/club and complaining about noise.
Complaining about traffic levels and safety outside their house
Wanting a business to change how they operate.
Near a school and complaining about parents
Have you ever done it? How and why? I guess the nature of social media and "local press" means we are exposed to these people more now than ever, but I just can't get my head around it, especially those who don't do their due diligence before buying.
Moving near to a pub/club and complaining about noise.
Complaining about traffic levels and safety outside their house
Wanting a business to change how they operate.
Near a school and complaining about parents
Have you ever done it? How and why? I guess the nature of social media and "local press" means we are exposed to these people more now than ever, but I just can't get my head around it, especially those who don't do their due diligence before buying.
I did once move into a flat in a block on a private road.
I must have visited to view at the weekend because there was ample parking for the six flats. However, during the week it was absolutely crammed with cars parking for the nearby railway station. I couldn't even get close with the removal van to move my stuff in...
Yes, more due diligence needed on my part. Did think about trying to get it 'residents parking only' but moved out shortly afterwards.
I must have visited to view at the weekend because there was ample parking for the six flats. However, during the week it was absolutely crammed with cars parking for the nearby railway station. I couldn't even get close with the removal van to move my stuff in...
Yes, more due diligence needed on my part. Did think about trying to get it 'residents parking only' but moved out shortly afterwards.
Years back a friend worked on an industrial estate that bizarrely had a single bungalow sited right in the middle, one day the occupants complained to an engineering company about them making so much noise over the weekend. The foreman being the consummate diplomat that he was pointed out that they had got the place cheap due to its location and then told them to f
k off
They fked off...
When I was office based someone phoned to ask our hours as they were looking to buy a property near the factory and they were concerned about noise issues. Problem was we had moved a year previously but Google maps still had us in our old location
k offThey f
ked off...When I was office based someone phoned to ask our hours as they were looking to buy a property near the factory and they were concerned about noise issues. Problem was we had moved a year previously but Google maps still had us in our old location
Not wishing to hijack this thread, but I have more sympathy for those that move somewhere only to have changes imposed on them. I lived on a busy road but about 20 years ago we had a 20 mph speed limit imposed 24*7 because of local schools. Of course, the safety of the little darlings is paramount when they're about, but it's very annoying for the other 23 hours most days and the entirety of their holidays and weekends...
We had an old couple move into a lovely thatched cottage overlooking our village green about four years ago.
The community association had built a fended off children's play area with swings and slides etc on the green which happened to be right outside their driveway and had been there for several years before they moved in.
They had been there no more than a couple of months before they decided to try and get it moved to the other end of the village green because they didn't like the children playing at the from of their house.
They very quickly made themselves unpopular, to the point of being hated and ostracised by many villagers, and sold up and moved within two years.
The community association had built a fended off children's play area with swings and slides etc on the green which happened to be right outside their driveway and had been there for several years before they moved in.
They had been there no more than a couple of months before they decided to try and get it moved to the other end of the village green because they didn't like the children playing at the from of their house.
They very quickly made themselves unpopular, to the point of being hated and ostracised by many villagers, and sold up and moved within two years.
Our first house was opposite a nice pub, in fact we saw it as a big plus point because we quite often went there before we bought the house.
The reality of living opposite a pub, even a quiet one wasn't quite what we expected though, it was far noisier than we expected coupled with the occasional fight/row/after hours pub singer.
I considered what we could do about it, to complain and try to get some kind of enforcement crossed my mind for about 5 seconds but ultimately we just had to put it down to experience. It was our first house purchase, we learned a lesson and sold after a couple of years-it would have been very unfair to the landlord and pub goers to have gone legal on they ass
The reality of living opposite a pub, even a quiet one wasn't quite what we expected though, it was far noisier than we expected coupled with the occasional fight/row/after hours pub singer.
I considered what we could do about it, to complain and try to get some kind of enforcement crossed my mind for about 5 seconds but ultimately we just had to put it down to experience. It was our first house purchase, we learned a lesson and sold after a couple of years-it would have been very unfair to the landlord and pub goers to have gone legal on they ass
Type R Tom said:
Over the years, we have all seen cases where someone has moved somewhere and then lobbied (usually the local council) to change the local area. Examples include:
Moving near to a pub/club and complaining about noise.
Complaining about traffic levels and safety outside their house
Wanting a business to change how they operate.
Near a school and complaining about parents
Have you ever done it? How and why? I guess the nature of social media and "local press" means we are exposed to these people more now than ever, but I just can't get my head around it, especially those who don't do their due diligence before buying.
We’re two houses away from our kids primary school and despite the double yellows parents will often park across our drive. Occasionally if I’m doing pick up as they’re getting out of their car they ask ‘I’m I okay there for a minute’ I’ll respond ‘not legally, you’re on double yellows’ and leave it a bit awkward for them, but wouldn’t take down number plates and inform the school etc. I know what time the drive could be blocked and plan leaving the house accordingly. Moving near to a pub/club and complaining about noise.
Complaining about traffic levels and safety outside their house
Wanting a business to change how they operate.
Near a school and complaining about parents
Have you ever done it? How and why? I guess the nature of social media and "local press" means we are exposed to these people more now than ever, but I just can't get my head around it, especially those who don't do their due diligence before buying.
Monkeylegend said:
We had an old couple move into a lovely thatched cottage overlooking our village green about four years ago.
The community association had built a fended off children's play area with swings and slides etc on the green which happened to be right outside their driveway and had been there for several years before they moved in.
They had been there no more than a couple of months before they decided to try and get it moved to the other end of the village green because they didn't like the children playing at the from of their house.
They very quickly made themselves unpopular, to the point of being hated and ostracised by many villagers, and sold up and moved within two years.
People can be strange and there's something to the " a mans home is his castle" saying. My in-laws bought a house similar to what you describe, with a kids play park a short distance away from a tall fence and hedge at the side of their driveway. Hardly any kids on the estate, rarely used, not a single instance as far as I'm aware of a ball coming over the fence or anything and actually no noise complaints either, but they eventually moved citing the park as a real annoyance. The park that was there when they viewed the house and was as bereft of activity that day as any other. Maybe there's a psychological "moat" round a man's castle and the thought of it being breached by kids playing is just too much for some people.The community association had built a fended off children's play area with swings and slides etc on the green which happened to be right outside their driveway and had been there for several years before they moved in.
They had been there no more than a couple of months before they decided to try and get it moved to the other end of the village green because they didn't like the children playing at the from of their house.
They very quickly made themselves unpopular, to the point of being hated and ostracised by many villagers, and sold up and moved within two years.
A colleague of mine, a really smart and reasonable guy normally, fought a pointless and unwinnable battle for years about someone parking perfectly legally on the road "right outside his front window" and another girl I know bought a house with shared bin access down a communal path, which was on the deeds and everything and then got into a bitter dispute with the neighbours about them using it as they'd always done. I'd like to think that If I ever exhibit this sort of behaviour my friends and family would tell me straight that I'm being a t
t.Pitre said:
Not wishing to hijack this thread, but I have more sympathy for those that move somewhere only to have changes imposed on them. I lived on a busy road but about 20 years ago we had a 20 mph speed limit imposed 24*7 because of local schools. Of course, the safety of the little darlings is paramount when they're about, but it's very annoying for the other 23 hours most days and the entirety of their holidays and weekends...
There’s a row of houses that I drive past on the way to work that were surrounded by fields up until recently. There was then a big warehouse put up in one of the fields but although it was large it wasn’t too imposing as there were trees etc in the way.Now there’s a gigantic Amazon warehouse behind them and a load of new roads surrounding them too. It must never be dark in these houses as it’s all lit up like a football pitch. I can only imagine the residents were stubborn and wouldn’t sell up but to what benefit?
Since moving to a housing estate, changes to the nearby high street have made a narrow road I walk down with the kids to school much busier, and now all I smell is fumes from the traffic. I’ve spoken to the council and highways about adjusting the traffic lights causing the queue, but it’s been a struggle. It wasn’t a problem before, but the changes have made things worse, as drivers are now avoiding the area.
Additionally, residents aren’t maintaining their ivy and bushes, which keep growing onto the path and making it even narrower—it’s becoming really frustrating.
Additionally, residents aren’t maintaining their ivy and bushes, which keep growing onto the path and making it even narrower—it’s becoming really frustrating.
Edited by richatnort on Friday 27th September 14:40
Wasn’t just because of me but my house backs onto a 40mph road , our street are all young families with kids out playing all the time.
40mph road gets used like a drag strip at times as it’s downhill so seen cars easily at 70mph+
Neighbours got together and managed to get some of those little light up signs when your going too fast up. It’s helped but doesn’t stop when all the summer toys are out and people are gunning it.
40mph road gets used like a drag strip at times as it’s downhill so seen cars easily at 70mph+
Neighbours got together and managed to get some of those little light up signs when your going too fast up. It’s helped but doesn’t stop when all the summer toys are out and people are gunning it.
OldPal said:
Wasn’t just because of me but my house backs onto a 40mph road , our street are all young families with kids out playing all the time.
40mph road gets used like a drag strip at times as it’s downhill so seen cars easily at 70mph+
Neighbours got together and managed to get some of those little light up signs when your going too fast up. It’s helped but doesn’t stop when all the summer toys are out and people are gunning it.
That's because you've now supplied the boy-racers with a target to beat! 40mph road gets used like a drag strip at times as it’s downhill so seen cars easily at 70mph+
Neighbours got together and managed to get some of those little light up signs when your going too fast up. It’s helped but doesn’t stop when all the summer toys are out and people are gunning it.
Yes.
We moved to a new house and discovered Network Rail used the grass outside as overflow parking for their signal box and our dropped kerb as their access. Our driveway was constantly mucky as a result (as the grass was more like mud), and more importantly their vehicles masked our exit onto a busy A road making it quite dangerous.
I asked if they could park at the far end, and reverse on, so that i had a vision splay.
I was told that "they would never stop parking their vehicles outside my house, they were there first and i could fk off". To be honest this helped enormously.
This escalated very quickly inside Network Rail to a quite senior role (I started with the CEO) and one person ended pretty close to a disciplinary offence I believe after being slow to get the message.
We now have new grass outside laid by Network Rail, a notice on our fence telling Network Rail staff to not park there, and Bollards on the grass installed by the council. (with some dead grass around as the dogs love to pee on them).
My sympathy was limited as Network Rail had plenty of land, and sold it all off rather than saving some for staff parking.
ETA I’ve never complained about the noise the trains make. I knew what I was getting into there.
We moved to a new house and discovered Network Rail used the grass outside as overflow parking for their signal box and our dropped kerb as their access. Our driveway was constantly mucky as a result (as the grass was more like mud), and more importantly their vehicles masked our exit onto a busy A road making it quite dangerous.
I asked if they could park at the far end, and reverse on, so that i had a vision splay.
I was told that "they would never stop parking their vehicles outside my house, they were there first and i could f
k off". To be honest this helped enormously.This escalated very quickly inside Network Rail to a quite senior role (I started with the CEO) and one person ended pretty close to a disciplinary offence I believe after being slow to get the message.
We now have new grass outside laid by Network Rail, a notice on our fence telling Network Rail staff to not park there, and Bollards on the grass installed by the council. (with some dead grass around as the dogs love to pee on them).
My sympathy was limited as Network Rail had plenty of land, and sold it all off rather than saving some for staff parking.
ETA I’ve never complained about the noise the trains make. I knew what I was getting into there.
Edited by surveyor on Friday 27th September 20:52
A colleague told me last week that he has moved into a new build detached house which backs on to a main arterial road which is a NSL off a motorway, minimal garden on that side of the house and a 6ft fence between said house and the road, he knew all this when he bought it, or at least should have looking at the building plots.
He is now on a campaign to get the speed limit of the road reduced because when large lorries drive past it shakes his whole house.
I pointed out that he knew what was there when he bought it but he says I wouldn't understand.
He is now on a campaign to get the speed limit of the road reduced because when large lorries drive past it shakes his whole house.
I pointed out that he knew what was there when he bought it but he says I wouldn't understand.
When I moved to my current house I did two things:
1 - Worked with the Parish and County Council to have a pedestrian island put in the middle of an A road that cuts the village in two so that taking toddlers to school with a pram you can cross much more safely.
2 - Started litter picking along the A road as it's used as a tip by passing traffic and getting worse year by year.
I have no issue with newcomers making changes to the areas they move to if it improves the area.
1 - Worked with the Parish and County Council to have a pedestrian island put in the middle of an A road that cuts the village in two so that taking toddlers to school with a pram you can cross much more safely.
2 - Started litter picking along the A road as it's used as a tip by passing traffic and getting worse year by year.
I have no issue with newcomers making changes to the areas they move to if it improves the area.
I moved to a house that is the opposite side of a road to a railway station. That part wasnt a problem at all, less noise than we thought we would get tbh it was fine. The problem was at 1 or 2 in the morning it was a regular place for chavvy car meets. Corsas and fiestas with peco big bores doing burnouts and handbrake turns, opening the boot and playing sound systems that kind of thing. Then railway Pa speakers telling them to leave but being ignored.
fk knows why the other neighbours were so passive about it, they all would whine about it but didnt do much about it. Made enough of a nuicance about it to scotrail, the council, and the police that eventually they started showing up and prosecuting for various things. Before camera phones, and the railway cameras couldnt pick up plates so borrowed a camcorder a few nights and gave them vhs tapes.
It definitely helped, after about a month they stopped coming. There were plenty industrial estates around without security guards and back roads 5 minutes away where they could piss around that isnt in a residential area so no sympathy for them.
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k knows why the other neighbours were so passive about it, they all would whine about it but didnt do much about it. Made enough of a nuicance about it to scotrail, the council, and the police that eventually they started showing up and prosecuting for various things. Before camera phones, and the railway cameras couldnt pick up plates so borrowed a camcorder a few nights and gave them vhs tapes.It definitely helped, after about a month they stopped coming. There were plenty industrial estates around without security guards and back roads 5 minutes away where they could piss around that isnt in a residential area so no sympathy for them.
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