Overgrown Neighbour Vegetation Causing Damage

Overgrown Neighbour Vegetation Causing Damage

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Swervin_Mervin

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4,596 posts

245 months

Thursday 26th September
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This is slightly different from the usual issue of lopping overhanging vegetation and wanging it back over the fence to "give it back" to the owner of said vegetation.

What are one's rights though when it comes to vegetation that coming through a boundary and causing damage to the boundary - i.e. a close-boarded fence? In this case it's ivy, and it's starting to come through both the close boarded panels as well as between where the panels meets the posts, on a 6ft fence. In parts the ivy is 6ft high on the neighbour's side. Fence is otherwise pristine and it wasn't cheap when we had it installed 15 years ago.

Said neighbour is unwilling to do anything about the vegetation. Oh and the neighbour also just happens to be Network Rail...

SlimJim16v

6,098 posts

150 months

Thursday 26th September
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Just sneakily lean over the fence and spray it with the strongest weedkiller you can get.

MDT

527 posts

179 months

Thursday 26th September
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get some glyphosate, mix it twice as strong as is suggested as ivy is quite "waxy" and spray away. You could get away with just spraying your side of the fence if you want, will work it's magic.

cwis

1,205 posts

186 months

Thursday 26th September
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MDT said:
get some glyphosate, mix it twice as strong as is suggested as ivy is quite "waxy" and spray away. You could get away with just spraying your side of the fence if you want, will work it's magic.
Drop of fairy liquid helps with the waxy...

otolith

58,992 posts

211 months

Thursday 26th September
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It's railway land on the other side? Would they care if you nuked the lot of it with glyphosate?

MDT

527 posts

179 months

Thursday 26th September
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otolith said:
It's railway land on the other side? Would they care if you nuked the lot of it with glyphosate?
Missed that part, with you NUKE it no question.

Arrivalist

583 posts

6 months

Thursday 26th September
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As has been said, kill it.

I had the same issue a while back and glyphosate solved it very easily.

Swervin_Mervin

Original Poster:

4,596 posts

245 months

Thursday 26th September
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I think I did accidentally spill some compost accelerator on some of it when I was stood on my compost bins last week so I could lean over the fence and have a look...

However, any suggestions of nuking it are very much a back stop if there's no alternative. I haven't responded to their correspondence yet, but it's absolutely my intention to do so. Before I do I was just keen to understand if there are any obligations on property owners when vegetation on their land is causing demonstrable damage to neighbouring property.


bennno

12,710 posts

276 months

Thursday 26th September
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Swervin_Mervin said:
This is slightly different from the usual issue of lopping overhanging vegetation and wanging it back over the fence to "give it back" to the owner of said vegetation.

What are one's rights though when it comes to vegetation that coming through a boundary and causing damage to the boundary - i.e. a close-boarded fence? In this case it's ivy, and it's starting to come through both the close boarded panels as well as between where the panels meets the posts, on a 6ft fence. In parts the ivy is 6ft high on the neighbour's side. Fence is otherwise pristine and it wasn't cheap when we had it installed 15 years ago.

Said neighbour is unwilling to do anything about the vegetation. Oh and the neighbour also just happens to be Network Rail...
How much life do you expect from a 15 year old panel fence?whats expensive when divided by 15?

Just spray the ivy with Glyphosate.

bennno

12,710 posts

276 months

Thursday 26th September
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bennno said:
Swervin_Mervin said:
This is slightly different from the usual issue of lopping overhanging vegetation and wanging it back over the fence to "give it back" to the owner of said vegetation.

What are one's rights though when it comes to vegetation that coming through a boundary and causing damage to the boundary - i.e. a close-boarded fence? In this case it's ivy, and it's starting to come through both the close boarded panels as well as between where the panels meets the posts, on a 6ft fence. In parts the ivy is 6ft high on the neighbour's side. Fence is otherwise pristine and it wasn't cheap when we had it installed 15 years ago.

Said neighbour is unwilling to do anything about the vegetation. Oh and the neighbour also just happens to be Network Rail...
How much life do you expect from a 15 year old panel fence?whats expensive when divided by 15?

Just spray the ivy with Glyphosate, or hop over the fence and chop it all down. .

Swervin_Mervin

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4,596 posts

245 months

Thursday 26th September
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bennno said:
bennno said:
Swervin_Mervin said:
This is slightly different from the usual issue of lopping overhanging vegetation and wanging it back over the fence to "give it back" to the owner of said vegetation.

What are one's rights though when it comes to vegetation that coming through a boundary and causing damage to the boundary - i.e. a close-boarded fence? In this case it's ivy, and it's starting to come through both the close boarded panels as well as between where the panels meets the posts, on a 6ft fence. In parts the ivy is 6ft high on the neighbour's side. Fence is otherwise pristine and it wasn't cheap when we had it installed 15 years ago.

Said neighbour is unwilling to do anything about the vegetation. Oh and the neighbour also just happens to be Network Rail...
How much life do you expect from a 15 year old panel fence?whats expensive when divided by 15?

Just spray the ivy with Glyphosate, or hop over the fence and chop it all down. .
Plenty of life when it's a high quality fence. Which it otherwise would have, were it not for being busted through by ivy. And I'm not overly keen to trespass on NR land

bennno

12,710 posts

276 months

Thursday 26th September
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Swervin_Mervin said:
Plenty of life when it's a high quality fence. Which it otherwise would have, were it not for being busted through by ivy. And I'm not overly keen to trespass on NR land
So just take the panels out and strim it from your side, or put a gate in and go clear it, or just douse it in weedkiller from a farm shop if you've no plants nearby.

Fence panels last 12-18 years maximum on average, so you aren't doing bad at 15 years.

Swervin_Mervin

Original Poster:

4,596 posts

245 months

Thursday 26th September
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bennno said:
Swervin_Mervin said:
Plenty of life when it's a high quality fence. Which it otherwise would have, were it not for being busted through by ivy. And I'm not overly keen to trespass on NR land
So just take the panels out and strim it from your side, or put a gate in and go clear it, or just douse it in weedkiller from a farm shop if you've no plants nearby.

Fence panels last 12-18 years maximum on average, so you aren't doing bad at 15 years.
25yr guarantee...

Anyway, my query isn't about how to tackle the vegetation myself. It's whether there is any legal requirement relating to not allowing vegetation to cause damage to neighbouring property. If anyone knows if there is, or definitely isn't such a requirement I'd be keen to know either way.

Chrisgr31

13,737 posts

262 months

Thursday 26th September
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Reality is getting Network Rail to take action is going to be next to impossible. Do not trespass on Network Rail land especially if it’s anywhere near the operational railway. You don’t want them stopping trains if you are spotted!

As others have said just spray it with weedkiller

Cow Corner

297 posts

37 months

Friday 27th September
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If it’s railway land then be thankful it’s only ivy and not Japanese Knotweed.

Just spray it.


lancslad58

1,102 posts

15 months

Friday 27th September
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Swervin_Mervin said:
bennno said:
Swervin_Mervin said:
Plenty of life when it's a high quality fence. Which it otherwise would have, were it not for being busted through by ivy. And I'm not overly keen to trespass on NR land
So just take the panels out and strim it from your side, or put a gate in and go clear it, or just douse it in weedkiller from a farm shop if you've no plants nearby.

Fence panels last 12-18 years maximum on average, so you aren't doing bad at 15 years.
25yr guarantee...

Anyway, my query isn't about how to tackle the vegetation myself. It's whether there is any legal requirement relating to not allowing vegetation to cause damage to neighbouring property. If anyone knows if there is, or definitely isn't such a requirement I'd be keen to know either way.
You might find something on the Ukrailforum or sign up and post your question on there.

https://www.railforums.co.uk/




Chrisgr31

13,737 posts

262 months

Friday 27th September
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Swervin_Mervin said:
This is slightly different from the usual issue of lopping overhanging vegetation and wanging it back over the fence to "give it back" to the owner of said vegetation.
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Incidentally you shouldn’t be wanging it back over the fence unless the owners have said they want it back! Wanging it back without consent is flytipping.

Swervin_Mervin

Original Poster:

4,596 posts

245 months

Friday 27th September
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Chrisgr31 said:
Swervin_Mervin said:
This is slightly different from the usual issue of lopping overhanging vegetation and wanging it back over the fence to "give it back" to the owner of said vegetation.
...
Incidentally you shouldn’t be wanging it back over the fence unless the owners have said they want it back! Wanging it back without consent is flytipping.
It's ok - NR have said I can trim back and overhanging growth and chuck it back. Even though it's trackside laugh I haven't reiterated yet that it's not overhanging but throughhanging...

Avenicus

458 posts

51 months

Friday 27th September
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If you get a response from Network Rail then they would just spray the ivy with Glyphosate anyway.

You can contact them about vegetation at https://networkrail.co.uk/communities/contact-us/
Web form, live chat or phone number is on there.

Manchester is covered by North West & Central Region and the Managing Director's details are easy to find on Google


EDIT - just saw you resolved it smile

Edited by Avenicus on Friday 27th September 12:43